16.7.09

Peradventure

<< 2 Timothy 2:25 >>

New International Version (©1984)
Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,

International Standard Version (©2008)
and gentle when refuting opponents. After all, maybe God will allow them to repent and to come to a full knowledge of the truth,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He must be gentle in correcting those who oppose the Good News. Maybe God will allow them to change the way they think and act and lead them to know the truth.

King James Bible
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

American King James Version
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

American Standard Version
in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,

Bible in Basic English
Gently guiding those who go against the teaching; if by chance God may give them a change of heart and true knowledge,

Douay-Rheims Bible
With modesty admonishing them that resist the truth: if peradventure God may give them repentance to know the truth,

Darby Bible Translation
in meekness setting right those who oppose, if God perhaps may sometime give them repentance to acknowledgment of the truth,

English Revised Version
in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,

Webster's Bible Translation
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God perhaps will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth:

Weymouth New Testament
He must speak in a gentle tone when correcting the errors of opponents, in the hope that God will at last give them repentance, for them to come to a full knowledge of the truth

World English Bible
in gentleness correcting those who oppose him: perhaps God may give them repentance leading to a full knowledge of the truth,

Young's Literal Translation
in meekness instructing those opposing -- if perhaps God may give to them repentance to an acknowledging of the truth,
Geneva Study Bible

In meekness instructing those that {k} oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

(k) He means those who do not yet see the truth.

People's New Testament

2:25 In meekness instructing them that oppose themselves. Opposers must be corrected, but not rudely; rather gently, kindly, humbly.

If God peradventure will give them repentance. God gives repentance often by providences which lead to repentance.

Wesley's Notes

2:25 In meekness - He has often need of zeal, always of meekness. If haply God - For it is wholly his work. May give them repentance - The acknowledging of the truth would then quickly follow.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

25. instructing-Greek, "disciplining," instructing with correction, which those who deal in "uninstructive" or "undisciplined questions" need (see on [2500]2Ti 2:23; [2501]1Ti 1:20).

those that oppose themselves-Greek, "oppositely affected"; those of a different opinion.

if . peradventure-Greek, "if at any time."

repentance-which they need as antecedent to the full knowledge (so the Greek for 'acknowledgment') of the truth" (1Ti 2:4), their minds being corrupted (2Ti 3:8), and their lives immoral. The cause of the spiritual ignorance which prompts such "questions" is moral, having its seat in the will, not in the intellect (Joh 7:17). Therefore repentance is their first need. That, not man, but God alone can "give" (Ac 5:31).

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

2:22-26 The more we follow that which is good, the faster and the further we shall flee from that which is evil. The keeping up the communion of saints, will take us from fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness. See how often the apostle cautions against disputes in religion; which surely shows that religion consists more in believing and practising what God requires, than in subtle disputes. Those are unapt to teach, who are apt to strive, and are fierce and froward. Teaching, not persecution, is the Scripture method of dealing with those in error. The same God who gives the discovery of the truth, by his grace brings us to acknowledge it, otherwise our hearts would continue to rebel against it. There is no peradventure, in respect of God's pardoning those who do repent; but we cannot tell that he will give repentance to those who oppose his will. Sinners are taken in a snare, and in the worst snare, because it is the devil's; they are slaves to him. And if any long for deliverance, let them remember they never can escape, except by repentance, which is the gift of God; and we must ask it of him by earnest, persevering prayer.

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15.7.09

Urgent!

It is in such an urgent, that we need to call onto the Lord, where we need help, we can find help in Jesus Christ. Lord, our living Lord and God, please come to help us!

I tell you the truth

I tell you the truth, some one saw the theologians behaving like a murderer, they are not your theologians, you are in dangers! Pertain to be a civil crime which can be jailed and trials.

I prayed to God that God may preserved you who are living with them. I am worried that they will hurt and harm you like what they had done unto us.

It is God's mercy I can survived until today, and I wrote this into blog, that in this end time, the churches had become a dangerous place for the babes in Christ. Where there are wolves, foxes living among them.

O Lord, heavenly Father, please protect Your people in BP Churches, may the Lord grant them to able to lean onto You, and may You come to help them and protect them from dangers and harms, even from the theologians. God this is urgent, please hear my prayer and cries. In the most powerful Name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Martin Luther and John Calvin

Since Martin Luther and John Calvin, preached Christ crucified, then we accepted both of them as our theologians, we study both schools of theology...they are one in Christ, the students of these schools do not divided at this moment, even after the reformation, we believe Christ is still our Savior!

But Verbal Plenary Preservation divided the students into divisions, this is carnality! This is babe in Christ.

1 Corinthians 3:1
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

1. If we are divided.
2. We are carnal.
3. We are babes in Christ.

You wanted a perfect Bible, even if you have it now in your hands, you still do not believe everything the Bible taught you!

You divided the BP church!

WAS PAUL CRUCIFIED FOR YOU?

Paul was offended by those carnal Christian in Corinthians, I see myself as a carnal Christian sometimes because of divisions, Paul was up sad in writing this to them:

1 Corinthians 1:13
Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul?

Was Martin Luther crucified for us?

WE KNOW HE IS THE REFORMER!

WAS PAUL CRUCIFIED FOR US?

What is Paul?

Paul asked us, "Who is Paul?"

He does not want us to be divided for minor issues, we wanted us not to be carnal in divisions, carnal Christian is a babe in Christ, like a babe looking for spiritual milk!

1 Corinthians 3:5
What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe as the Lord has assigned to each his task.

I am a fool

Do you think a blogger like me is clever, in writing this and that? No! I am in fact a biggest fool to me, according to our Bible, when I am angry, fully vent to it, I am a complete fool!

Proverbs 29:11
A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.

Ecclesiastes 7:9
Do not be quickly provoked in your spirit, for anger resides in the lap of fools.

The queen


This is one of the queen I saw in the Middle East! A noble queen indeed!

Episcopal vote on gay clergy widens Anglican split

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – A global schism in the worldwide Anglican Communion looked set to widen on Tuesday after its U.S. branch, the Episcopal Church, approved a resolution to ordain gay and lesbian clergy.

The ordaining of gay clergy and related issues have already prompted some conservative congregations to leave the Episcopal fold, while a few traditional Anglican churches in regions like Africa have broken ties with their more liberal U.S. brethren.

The resolution was passed by wide margins by both of the church's main decision-making bodies, the House of Bishops and the House of Deputies, at its General Convention in Anaheim, California, south of Los Angeles.

The resolution affirmed that "God has called and may call such individuals (gay or lesbians), to any ordained ministry in The Episcopal Church."

It also recognized that "the baptized membership of The Episcopal Church includes same-sex couples living in lifelong committed relationships characterized by fidelity, monogamy, mutual affection and respect, careful, honest communication, and the holy love which enables those in such relationships to see in each other the image of God."

Nancy Davidge, a spokeswoman for the Episcopal Church, said the resolution did not address the issue of same-sex marriage at all and its wording should not be interpreted as such.

Adoption of the measure marked the latest chapter in a long-running saga that has threatened splits in the Anglican Communion, whose roughly 80 million members belong to congregations that are offshoots of the Church of England.

Divisions between liberals and conservatives already had undermined Episcopal Church unity by 2003, when it consecrated Gene Robinson of New Hampshire as the first bishop in Anglican history known to be in an openly gay relationship.

RIVAL DENOMINATION

Tuesday's resolution appears to have ended an effective three-year moratorium on the election of gay bishops that had been agreed to cool tensions. No openly gay or lesbian bishop has been elected since Robinson's consecration.

Last month, conservatives who left the U.S. Episcopal Church over issues like gay clergy finalized the formation of a rival denomination, the new Anglican Church in North America, claiming a membership of 100,000 followers.

All of this is unfolding against the backdrop of America's wider debate over sexual orientation issues, such as gay marriage, child adoption by same-sex parents and the status of homosexuals in the military.

Conservative Christians regard same-sex relations as sinful and proscribed by scripture.

Commentators have speculated that the Episcopalians may eventually leave the Anglican Communion and could still lose some conservative congregations.

"There is no desire from within the Episcopal Church to leave the Anglican fold," Ian Douglas, a member of the House of Deputies, told Reuters by telephone.

He said the resolution confirmed the church's "commitment to nondiscrimination" and "states what is on the books."

The U.S. Episcopal branch has about 2 million worshipers and faces many of the problems that other mainline Protestant churches in America confront -- declining membership, some of whom have left for fast-growing evangelical churches, and aging congregations.

(Writing and reporting by Ed Stoddard; Editing by Steve Gorman and John O'Callaghan)

Devour


Many of these so called scholars, theologians, and pastors, taught their followers, that a Christian cannot be devoured by the devil! Is it true?

Do not say the roaring lion cannot devour a Christian! I am foolish to say this! St Peter said the devil is seeking whom he may devour, St Peter was mentioning this to the Christians, he was talking to us Christian may be devoured by the lions.

Do not be proud of your VPP, KJV perfect Bible, or whatever things like tongues speaking, spiritual gifts, .....if you do not read the Bible, and use it daily, you and me are in danger! Do not say we are perfectly unharmed, we are living in a harmless world.

1 John 4:4
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Here we have the assurance to overcome the evil one, we have the Holy Spirit in us. We need the Bible, and we need to pray! Do not overlooked the lion! He is not a cub, not a kitten to us! Principalities in the sky over us!

But there are dangers, in which, we are getting hurts phisically, wounded spiritually, and depressed mentally, invaded, heart broken, down heart....hears and scared...like Elijah running away from a queen!

Even Jesus Christ tasted depression and agony on the cross He cried, "My God, My God, why has you forsaken me!"

1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

You say we have a 100% perfect Bible, no hurt and harm living on earth, you are careless to say this! Look again here in the Bible. What does the Bible says about this devour again! These devour are taking task on Christian brotherhood.

Galatians 5:15
But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

Man, we some time, bite one another like biting Kentucky Fried Chicken, hot and spicy chicken meat! Man o Man, we some time, devour one another like eating chicken wings, man o man, we some time, consumed one another! Like consuming some rubbishes in backyard fire.

Still some of us, say the lion has no teeth, the lion just can roar at night, and it cannot devour a Christian! It cannot hurt us, we are saved! We better think twice, before we are so careless to say this! We better think again, before we begin to bite, to devour, to consume, within the churches circle because of theological differences!

And we put on a stage like this Verbal Plenary Preservation of the Bible, in order, we may create more unrest in churches! This is like a devour from the lion! Man we some time like that old lion! Sad to say this, I am also like a young lion.

May the Holy Spirit come and change us like a dove!

Look at that picture, you say the lions have no teeth! You say again!

In the Name of Jesus Christ, we have the victory!

In the Name of Jesus Christ! Amen!

Lord, please forgive me...

My Lord, please forgive me, you have given me so many shape of fine and good swords to defend myself, but I did not use them! I keep on pick and choose which is the best sword among them! Until the enemies came to devour and defeat me for a time! Then the sword will be unused!

Ezekiel 36:26
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

Lord, please give me a new heart.

Zechariah 4:6
So he said to me, "This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the LORD Almighty.

Not by might nor by power, but by Your Spirit.

Sword


"the Septuagint sword"

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