We pray for unity within the Bible-Presbyterian Church. Calling some of their fundamentalists to repentance. We reprimand Far Eastern Bible College (FEBC) lecturers for teaching heresy and living in lust and pride! ++THIS BLOG HAS STRONG LANGUAGE. Reader discretion is advised++
13.7.09
Brain Storming
This blog to me is my brain storming, is actually only exist on the paper, this is not a dogma, this is only my personal view! In searching the truth for the Verbal Plenary Preservation. I do not think what I wrote is right and perfect, I need time to correct my blog. I may write another blog to defeat this blog....this is to see the balancing point!
12.7.09
External Focus!
The Gospel of Matthew written that the world ended in such a different way from the way we are living now, you better asked yourselves this, does the world has a happy ending?
What our Lord told us before hand about the end of the world in Matthew 24-25? What happened to our family life in those days.
And what about our enemy in the end time?
Revelation 12:10 (New International Version)
10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
"Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
What about eating and drinking in the end time?
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit
Why are we still worry about our eating and drinking?
Where is our righteousness comes from?
Where is our peace from?
What is the joy in the Holy Spirit?
What our Lord told us before hand about the end of the world in Matthew 24-25? What happened to our family life in those days.
And what about our enemy in the end time?
Revelation 12:10 (New International Version)
10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
"Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God day and night,
has been hurled down.
What about eating and drinking in the end time?
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit
Why are we still worry about our eating and drinking?
Where is our righteousness comes from?
Where is our peace from?
What is the joy in the Holy Spirit?
Stand!
I am writing in this blog silently, still seeking the truth, still there is a fear that this blog become avain, that I will be stoned to death by the theologians and those elders, in writing blog, in attacking the theologians, in saying things that they do not like to listen, and they say I am losing my mind!
Continue in writing this, so that I reach the point where I can make a conclusion finally, the Verbal Plenary Preservation. Some times I do not know how to write any more, nearly give up in seeking what is Verbal Plenary Preservation that split the BP churches, I stopped, resting for some time, I changed my blog address so many times, because there is dangers around! I Do not think I am all right even now, lets I am fallen down! There are times, when I was under the attack from the evil spirits and evil men, life is harder than I can imagined!
1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Revelation 6:17
For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
If I can stand another day in peace, great is my joy in me!
Continue in writing this, so that I reach the point where I can make a conclusion finally, the Verbal Plenary Preservation. Some times I do not know how to write any more, nearly give up in seeking what is Verbal Plenary Preservation that split the BP churches, I stopped, resting for some time, I changed my blog address so many times, because there is dangers around! I Do not think I am all right even now, lets I am fallen down! There are times, when I was under the attack from the evil spirits and evil men, life is harder than I can imagined!
1 Corinthians 10:12
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Revelation 6:17
For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
If I can stand another day in peace, great is my joy in me!
Laying hands!
The Bible tells us not to lay hands on anyone hastily, 1 Timothy 5:22, Do not lay hands on anyone hastily, nor share in other people’s sins; keep yourself pure.
2 Timothy 1:6, Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.
Through laying hands, sin was shared from a man to another man. Be careful!
Through laying hands, gift was passed from a man to another man. Be a Blessings!
I tell you another thing, that through laying of hands, sickness was healed. Acts 28:8, And it happened that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and dysentery. Paul went in to him and prayed, and he laid his hands on him and healed him.
Furthermore even before a man was healed, he may received the Holy Spirit through laying hands on a man. Acts 8:18, And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money.
Hands are given so much power! Imagine that bear little hands that shake the world, mother's hands.
I tell you another thing, when a man laying hands on other, the evil spirit may jump on your hands! Those small little evil bugs! It depends on what purpose and on who we lay our hands! Take care!
ACTS 19:13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15 (One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.
I met pastors with strange and evil "bugs" jumping in his body, and I can feel this and I can smell it! That is why I wrote here, to remind, I never believe for what I saw, and what I felt, spirit jumping in pastors which carrying sickness and torments, and I heard he was sing "hallelujah" aloud, shocking and rocking himself in laud "spiritual" songs, i do not understand this at all, why this things happened to him? I saw many "Christians" with evils spirit in their faces, i also do not understand why she or he is like that, smiling with double edges teeth, smiling with a weird smile. That appeared in a split of second, after that the woman returned to normal! No one else see this!
Pastors may sometime oppressed by evil force, under spiritual bondages, traumas, because they are living under sins! That is why the struggles! What am I going to do, living under this oppression, temptations have make a pastor and Christian to live under the grips of the evil powers! He may pretend to be someone for whole life! Like Judas Iscariat, he was loving money more than the Lord!
I had met pastors and elders with high degrees, but they are murderers! I met one of them, who can memories the whole Book of James, surprisingly, he even can memorise the Book of James in Greek, every word of it, every chapter of it, the word of God in his mouth, but he was attacked by the evil spirits at night, crying for helps, day in day out, I pitied him! In this I also do not understand, why? Maybe the pastors lived in secret sins!
I had met women with spirits hidden, until prayers and fasting revealed them, their true colors, but this I cannot tell you, I am afraid you will be frighten, scared. I had to pray and fast, if I do not, I am like a dead dog! And I am useless, even the glory of God has left me for sometimes, personal sins, glory of God may leave a man, but it is when I am reading the Bible, the glory of God returned to me a little while, hallowing my head, but another time, remember the glory of God is from God, come and go, sometimes, I am living in fears, nightmares, there was time when I was living in depression. When I am hating a man, there is darkness over my faces, over my head, who can help me?
I am a man, when I start to talk, man will left the room at once, I am a man who has no true friend on earth, I am a man who cannot talk this openly, that is why I wrote here as a references in future, for myself, and I am a man who are mourning for the theologians, and I am not better than all those men I mentioned earlier, those who has spiritual bugs, those who are oppressed, I am no better than any one of them, that is why I write here to remind me and warned me, in case you met these people, remember to pray for them, only by God's grace, we can help other, only by God's mercy I can lived until today. Lord Jesus Christ please come to help us! Please lay your hands on us, to heal us!
Man, we sometime slay a man with our bear hands!
2 Timothy 1:6, Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands.
Through laying hands, sin was shared from a man to another man. Be careful!
Through laying hands, gift was passed from a man to another man. Be a Blessings!
I tell you another thing, that through laying of hands, sickness was healed. Acts 28:8, And it happened that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever and dysentery. Paul went in to him and prayed, and he laid his hands on him and healed him.
Furthermore even before a man was healed, he may received the Holy Spirit through laying hands on a man. Acts 8:18, And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money.
Hands are given so much power! Imagine that bear little hands that shake the world, mother's hands.
I tell you another thing, when a man laying hands on other, the evil spirit may jump on your hands! Those small little evil bugs! It depends on what purpose and on who we lay our hands! Take care!
ACTS 19:13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15 (One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.
I met pastors with strange and evil "bugs" jumping in his body, and I can feel this and I can smell it! That is why I wrote here, to remind, I never believe for what I saw, and what I felt, spirit jumping in pastors which carrying sickness and torments, and I heard he was sing "hallelujah" aloud, shocking and rocking himself in laud "spiritual" songs, i do not understand this at all, why this things happened to him? I saw many "Christians" with evils spirit in their faces, i also do not understand why she or he is like that, smiling with double edges teeth, smiling with a weird smile. That appeared in a split of second, after that the woman returned to normal! No one else see this!
Pastors may sometime oppressed by evil force, under spiritual bondages, traumas, because they are living under sins! That is why the struggles! What am I going to do, living under this oppression, temptations have make a pastor and Christian to live under the grips of the evil powers! He may pretend to be someone for whole life! Like Judas Iscariat, he was loving money more than the Lord!
I had met pastors and elders with high degrees, but they are murderers! I met one of them, who can memories the whole Book of James, surprisingly, he even can memorise the Book of James in Greek, every word of it, every chapter of it, the word of God in his mouth, but he was attacked by the evil spirits at night, crying for helps, day in day out, I pitied him! In this I also do not understand, why? Maybe the pastors lived in secret sins!
I had met women with spirits hidden, until prayers and fasting revealed them, their true colors, but this I cannot tell you, I am afraid you will be frighten, scared. I had to pray and fast, if I do not, I am like a dead dog! And I am useless, even the glory of God has left me for sometimes, personal sins, glory of God may leave a man, but it is when I am reading the Bible, the glory of God returned to me a little while, hallowing my head, but another time, remember the glory of God is from God, come and go, sometimes, I am living in fears, nightmares, there was time when I was living in depression. When I am hating a man, there is darkness over my faces, over my head, who can help me?
I am a man, when I start to talk, man will left the room at once, I am a man who has no true friend on earth, I am a man who cannot talk this openly, that is why I wrote here as a references in future, for myself, and I am a man who are mourning for the theologians, and I am not better than all those men I mentioned earlier, those who has spiritual bugs, those who are oppressed, I am no better than any one of them, that is why I write here to remind me and warned me, in case you met these people, remember to pray for them, only by God's grace, we can help other, only by God's mercy I can lived until today. Lord Jesus Christ please come to help us! Please lay your hands on us, to heal us!
Man, we sometime slay a man with our bear hands!
10.7.09
Letter to the elder and the captives
The churches in different denominations said THIS to the servant of God, the church does not belong to man, but to God. In this they oppressed the servant of God, and the voices of the poor servant of God has gone up the sky. Money is taken the church in captive, the Babylonian invaded the churches!
They had made the servants of God becoming a slave for the elders, and they paid their service to the Lord, like paying a maid servant, time is come to the elders, He is knocking, and the elders are going to open the door! And they will see themselves in the mirror, blessed is the elder who will be come a servant of the Lord.
And there is people around that mingle truths with false! Even so beware for what you the elder who have taught the babes and the young sheep in Christ in all these Churches, the Lord is coming back to see your work. He is looking for the faithful servants of God, and then he will reward them.
Do not asked me, how much money in your pocket? You think He is coming back to look for a bank with gold bars? A big church building, a bigger car? A better out fit? You do not care for the poor, and you do not give water to the thirsty men and women, and that is accountable, and the prisons are full with hopeless eyes, you still wanted to run the world without hopes? And you are competing for rewards on earth?
You think He is coming back to look for a man with purple robes, and this man bullying men with his authority? i have told you beforehand, and when things happened, you know where you can look for God, His Name, is Adonai the Messiah! You know God is a God of revenge, He is light, and let Him shine upon the people who oppressed us! Let us died with the mark of the cross, the cross is our crowns! You think He is coming back to look for a man with KJV Only? You think He is asking you to read the Bible without understand the time, what is the time now? Are we called to quarrel for a few Bible versions? No!
No, He is coming back to look for His sheep, and even His lost sheeps. Are you one of His sheeps? Are you like Peter, whom Jesus said to him to feed His lamb, to feed His sheeps? Are you not aware of the teachings you taught in the school?
In the Bible, why Job curse his birthday!
Job 2: 9 His wife said to him, "Are you still holding on to your integrity? Curse God and die!"
Job 3:1 After this, Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth.
Did the wife laugh at him, “Happy birth? darling, sweet heart?” And they cut the cake and eat it? Were they not living in poverty for sometime? And why there is among us who is crying and no one came for help, and the world is merry and enjoying life. And end will come like a thief! God will rise up another entertainer for you! But are you want to make him to be a idol? You asked me how much I treasure friendship in Christ, theologians answered me, "There is no friendship in Christ accept the friendship in KJV!" When I heard this I mourned! How much a silver dime can buy you? Did you know money cannot bring you a friendship in Christ, not even a brother in Christ you can pay for his life, but Christ paid for them a ransom! Betray you a man who called onto the Lord?
I had sung all the Hebrew 150 psalms for a few months, and then God heard my prayer, the Shunamy came, and this time I am going to sing these Hebrew songs again, and the enemes said I am crazy when they heard me sung the psalms in Hebrew, I will call onto the Lord, until He hear my voices in the nights, my Lord, how long, you will then return?
May the Lord shine His face onto us.
Psalm 94
They had made the servants of God becoming a slave for the elders, and they paid their service to the Lord, like paying a maid servant, time is come to the elders, He is knocking, and the elders are going to open the door! And they will see themselves in the mirror, blessed is the elder who will be come a servant of the Lord.
And there is people around that mingle truths with false! Even so beware for what you the elder who have taught the babes and the young sheep in Christ in all these Churches, the Lord is coming back to see your work. He is looking for the faithful servants of God, and then he will reward them.
Do not asked me, how much money in your pocket? You think He is coming back to look for a bank with gold bars? A big church building, a bigger car? A better out fit? You do not care for the poor, and you do not give water to the thirsty men and women, and that is accountable, and the prisons are full with hopeless eyes, you still wanted to run the world without hopes? And you are competing for rewards on earth?
You think He is coming back to look for a man with purple robes, and this man bullying men with his authority? i have told you beforehand, and when things happened, you know where you can look for God, His Name, is Adonai the Messiah! You know God is a God of revenge, He is light, and let Him shine upon the people who oppressed us! Let us died with the mark of the cross, the cross is our crowns! You think He is coming back to look for a man with KJV Only? You think He is asking you to read the Bible without understand the time, what is the time now? Are we called to quarrel for a few Bible versions? No!
No, He is coming back to look for His sheep, and even His lost sheeps. Are you one of His sheeps? Are you like Peter, whom Jesus said to him to feed His lamb, to feed His sheeps? Are you not aware of the teachings you taught in the school?
In the Bible, why Job curse his birthday!
Job 2: 9 His wife said to him, "Are you still holding on to your integrity? Curse God and die!"
Job 3:1 After this, Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth.
Did the wife laugh at him, “Happy birth? darling, sweet heart?” And they cut the cake and eat it? Were they not living in poverty for sometime? And why there is among us who is crying and no one came for help, and the world is merry and enjoying life. And end will come like a thief! God will rise up another entertainer for you! But are you want to make him to be a idol? You asked me how much I treasure friendship in Christ, theologians answered me, "There is no friendship in Christ accept the friendship in KJV!" When I heard this I mourned! How much a silver dime can buy you? Did you know money cannot bring you a friendship in Christ, not even a brother in Christ you can pay for his life, but Christ paid for them a ransom! Betray you a man who called onto the Lord?
I had sung all the Hebrew 150 psalms for a few months, and then God heard my prayer, the Shunamy came, and this time I am going to sing these Hebrew songs again, and the enemes said I am crazy when they heard me sung the psalms in Hebrew, I will call onto the Lord, until He hear my voices in the nights, my Lord, how long, you will then return?
May the Lord shine His face onto us.
Psalm 94
8.7.09
TreaSure on earth!
The rich men on earth are angry with me because I nagging them about the richness they had.
They sung a song, "let the poor say I am rich...let the weak say I am strong...."
And then I remembered a few verses from the Bible, Matthew 6:18-20 (New International Version)
18 so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Treasures in Heaven
19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
God want us to put our treasure in heaven, but some say we better put our treasure in the share markets, so that God will blessed me with more money! Some say we better put our treasures on the roads, driving a big car, life is short, living in a big mansion, because life is hard, eating good food, because that is say to enjoy life. This is the rich men's life on earth, and then they looked down to the poor men carrying the cross on the streets.
The theologian says my treasure is the KJV Bible, the ONLY BIBLE in the whole world. No other Bible on earth that can be called a Bible. They too looked down on us who read the NIV! We are poor they say in spiritual term.
Furthermore the rich Christians looked down even to those poor servant of God, that is why the elders always say this to their pastors or full time workers, "You give us the spiritual food on the pulpits, that is enough, that is your work, we take care of your physical food, that is it, you better don't interfere our management, we wanted the secular way, so that is it. We wanted to run the ministry with the secular way. Who give you the authority in controlling us? No! Stop talking Bible in our life."
They wanted to tame the pastor, to follow their secular way! And pastor has no authority over the elders! Why? Who paid the pastor? Who give you food? That is why they are happily, singing let the weak say I am strong, let the poor I am rich, you know!
Who give you the authority? Bible is our authority? Which Bible? The KJV? Only the KJV?
Secular? What type?
Some follow Paul, some follow Apollos, ....that ye all speak the same thing,....no divisions among you...(1 Cor 1:10)
there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, ARE YE NOT CARNAL? AND WALK AS MEN? ....I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? (1 Cor 3:3-4)
They sung a song, "let the poor say I am rich...let the weak say I am strong...."
And then I remembered a few verses from the Bible, Matthew 6:18-20 (New International Version)
18 so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Treasures in Heaven
19 "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
God want us to put our treasure in heaven, but some say we better put our treasure in the share markets, so that God will blessed me with more money! Some say we better put our treasures on the roads, driving a big car, life is short, living in a big mansion, because life is hard, eating good food, because that is say to enjoy life. This is the rich men's life on earth, and then they looked down to the poor men carrying the cross on the streets.
The theologian says my treasure is the KJV Bible, the ONLY BIBLE in the whole world. No other Bible on earth that can be called a Bible. They too looked down on us who read the NIV! We are poor they say in spiritual term.
Furthermore the rich Christians looked down even to those poor servant of God, that is why the elders always say this to their pastors or full time workers, "You give us the spiritual food on the pulpits, that is enough, that is your work, we take care of your physical food, that is it, you better don't interfere our management, we wanted the secular way, so that is it. We wanted to run the ministry with the secular way. Who give you the authority in controlling us? No! Stop talking Bible in our life."
They wanted to tame the pastor, to follow their secular way! And pastor has no authority over the elders! Why? Who paid the pastor? Who give you food? That is why they are happily, singing let the weak say I am strong, let the poor I am rich, you know!
Who give you the authority? Bible is our authority? Which Bible? The KJV? Only the KJV?
Secular? What type?
Some follow Paul, some follow Apollos, ....that ye all speak the same thing,....no divisions among you...(1 Cor 1:10)
there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, ARE YE NOT CARNAL? AND WALK AS MEN? ....I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? (1 Cor 3:3-4)
A booklet from a Bible Presbyterian Pastor
I received a booklet from a Bible Presbyterian pastor friend few years ago, he is a very special Christian to me, why he is, because he is different from other BP pastor. He has a widen view regarding Christianity.
In his small booklet given to me, it is written, "...in the church, some of them say baptism by immersion is good, some of them say baptism by sprinkling is good, some of them say head covering is good, every man with different understanding, so do not be proud, do not be the king, do not impose by force these things onto others....Love must be better, heart opened wide, if I do not eat meat, I cannot forced other to refrain from meat. Presently, many churches are separated, self developing, taking care of their own banner, or some of them say we must immerse into water three times, some of them say we immerse once is enough, some of them say immerse vertically, some of them say immerse with a kneeling position, all of these are not important. Because the Bible is not written in detail regarding the mode of the baptism. If the mode of baptism is effecting our salvation, the Bible will surely written more detail regarding them, so that we may obey them, in order we may not fallen away. But Bible has different dealings with Holy Communion, Bible reading, prayers, they are recorded in detail, these are very important, they are the prominent truths. There are people who are proud, they look down on others, despise other denominations, this is because their narrowness, shallow viewed. The Bible tell us, 2 Peter 1:7, "And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity...." End of that paragraph in the Booklet....
Why I bring up the mode of baptism here?
Like the mode of baptism, I hope we learned that Verbal Plenary Preservation is a personal conviction, a personal preference, a personal view, it does not effect our salvation, as far as we accepting both KJV as the English Bible, and CUV the Chinese Bible, since every faithful translation is accepting Christ as the only way of salvation, preaching the same old Gospel, Christ dies for us, and after the salvation, good works. These are the more prominent truth we must cling on! So these faithful Bible translations also including some Bible translations like NKJV, NIV, ESV. Are those prominent doctrine I mentioned missing from these Bible translations like the NKJV? Obviously, no. That is why we still accepting NKJV for a readable version.
The preservation of the Bible is not recorded in detail, some say the Bible preserved in jot and title, some say this "jot and title" means every Old Testament law and requirement are completed by Christ, some of them say this mean we must print "a perfect Bible." With many different view regarding Bible preservation, this is like the differences in the mode of baptism and head covering. We do believe Bible is preserved by God, but we must not impose those personal view on others!
The Bible is the sword of the Holy Spirit! Do not put in this way, the Holy Spirit is the sword of the Bible!
In his small booklet given to me, it is written, "...in the church, some of them say baptism by immersion is good, some of them say baptism by sprinkling is good, some of them say head covering is good, every man with different understanding, so do not be proud, do not be the king, do not impose by force these things onto others....Love must be better, heart opened wide, if I do not eat meat, I cannot forced other to refrain from meat. Presently, many churches are separated, self developing, taking care of their own banner, or some of them say we must immerse into water three times, some of them say we immerse once is enough, some of them say immerse vertically, some of them say immerse with a kneeling position, all of these are not important. Because the Bible is not written in detail regarding the mode of the baptism. If the mode of baptism is effecting our salvation, the Bible will surely written more detail regarding them, so that we may obey them, in order we may not fallen away. But Bible has different dealings with Holy Communion, Bible reading, prayers, they are recorded in detail, these are very important, they are the prominent truths. There are people who are proud, they look down on others, despise other denominations, this is because their narrowness, shallow viewed. The Bible tell us, 2 Peter 1:7, "And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity...." End of that paragraph in the Booklet....
Why I bring up the mode of baptism here?
Like the mode of baptism, I hope we learned that Verbal Plenary Preservation is a personal conviction, a personal preference, a personal view, it does not effect our salvation, as far as we accepting both KJV as the English Bible, and CUV the Chinese Bible, since every faithful translation is accepting Christ as the only way of salvation, preaching the same old Gospel, Christ dies for us, and after the salvation, good works. These are the more prominent truth we must cling on! So these faithful Bible translations also including some Bible translations like NKJV, NIV, ESV. Are those prominent doctrine I mentioned missing from these Bible translations like the NKJV? Obviously, no. That is why we still accepting NKJV for a readable version.
The preservation of the Bible is not recorded in detail, some say the Bible preserved in jot and title, some say this "jot and title" means every Old Testament law and requirement are completed by Christ, some of them say this mean we must print "a perfect Bible." With many different view regarding Bible preservation, this is like the differences in the mode of baptism and head covering. We do believe Bible is preserved by God, but we must not impose those personal view on others!
The Bible is the sword of the Holy Spirit! Do not put in this way, the Holy Spirit is the sword of the Bible!
7.7.09
The Jehovah Witnesses
The Jehovah Witnesses are living near us, as the neighbours, they are attacking us more easily! May the Lord repay them for what they had done unto us!
One day, I met a Christian brother, he told me that the Jehovah Witnesses are very strong in the Bible Study, they can find the Bible verses he mentioned in a few seconds, they are very fast in searching the Bible verses he wanted,so he was amazed and proud of mentioning the Jehovah Witnesses.
Do the Jehovah Witnesses know the Bible well? Can't they understand the Bible?
Yes, they can read the Bible! They can search the Bible, but they cannot understand the New Testament, they cannot see that the Name of God in Old Testament is Jehovah or Yahweh. But in the time of New Testament, St. Peter, John, Paul and James, these Jews had called name of the God in another different way, the Name is The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. (Matthew 28:19)
The Jehovah Witnesses cannot understand this new way in addressing God's Name, they insist that the Name is Jehovah. They just do not want to take serious about this verse, Matthew 28:19! They do not wanted to be serious about the New Testament! They do not believe Jesus is God, they do not want to believe Holy Spirit is God, that is why they are different from us, but still they called themselves as Christian, they are confusing!
One day one of the Jehovah Witnesses came to talk to me, she said, "We better don't quarrel over this and that, the most important thing is weather we receive the salvation or not."
She is so proud of her belief. She made a point here, I have to ask myself, "Am I saved?" And I better ask you, the theologians this question, "Are they the Jehovah Witnesses saved? How about you?"
Written by a perverted Jehovah Witness, repented from Jehovah witness..because I was a Jehovah Witness before I received Christ!
One day, I met a Christian brother, he told me that the Jehovah Witnesses are very strong in the Bible Study, they can find the Bible verses he mentioned in a few seconds, they are very fast in searching the Bible verses he wanted,so he was amazed and proud of mentioning the Jehovah Witnesses.
Do the Jehovah Witnesses know the Bible well? Can't they understand the Bible?
Yes, they can read the Bible! They can search the Bible, but they cannot understand the New Testament, they cannot see that the Name of God in Old Testament is Jehovah or Yahweh. But in the time of New Testament, St. Peter, John, Paul and James, these Jews had called name of the God in another different way, the Name is The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. (Matthew 28:19)
The Jehovah Witnesses cannot understand this new way in addressing God's Name, they insist that the Name is Jehovah. They just do not want to take serious about this verse, Matthew 28:19! They do not wanted to be serious about the New Testament! They do not believe Jesus is God, they do not want to believe Holy Spirit is God, that is why they are different from us, but still they called themselves as Christian, they are confusing!
One day one of the Jehovah Witnesses came to talk to me, she said, "We better don't quarrel over this and that, the most important thing is weather we receive the salvation or not."
She is so proud of her belief. She made a point here, I have to ask myself, "Am I saved?" And I better ask you, the theologians this question, "Are they the Jehovah Witnesses saved? How about you?"
Written by a perverted Jehovah Witness, repented from Jehovah witness..because I was a Jehovah Witness before I received Christ!
The Bible Presbyterian Churches
I knew how the Bible Presbyterian Churches (BPC) are under the sieges from the enemies of Christ. Many BPC are faithfully preaching the one time old gospel, calling men to repent from sin and lived onto God. They are fighting for the one time preached Gospel for all mankind, salvation in believing the Lord Jesus! And they had survived many ups and downs in serving the Lord.
The enemies do not like the Bible Presbyterian! They wanted to destroy them. The story belows are as far as I concerned is a truth, nothing but the truth I am telling you. Because the enemies work in a plan and device, and they have traces in attacking the BPC.
One day a few presbyters, elders, Jehovah Witnesses, with the helps from unbelievers, politicians, businessmen, even some from BPC themselves came to agreement for a conspiracy, to destroy the BPC, and they had thought out a way to trap the BPC. They had made a place called "The widow maker" in Bible Presbyterian Church! Many preachers from BPC came to the "the widow maker" and there they hurl the attack on them one by one until they fallen in trays.
Many full time workers in BPC were hurt spiritually and mentally even physically, they are under the siege from these enemies within and without internationally and locally.
The Verbal Plenary Preservation is not the biggest problem to BPC, the common enemy for BPC is coming from without the Christianity, the Jehovah Witness and their friends, the unbelievers, the secular men and women, they forgot that, that is why they are fighting among themselves, no, they must not do that another day, they must united once again to preach the old time Gospel, and there is a cost in following Christ! God do not forgot their hard labours in BPC, surely God have preserved His men and women in BPC!
Arise, men and women in BPC, sound your trumpet! Unite under the banner of Christ, the King of kings. Stand still, until the sun stands still, and make wars until to the end.
Unite the sons and daughters of God in BPC! Do not split over minor issues!
Remember the day Christ had been nailed between the thieves! From there God forgives us!
written by a pervert?
The enemies do not like the Bible Presbyterian! They wanted to destroy them. The story belows are as far as I concerned is a truth, nothing but the truth I am telling you. Because the enemies work in a plan and device, and they have traces in attacking the BPC.
One day a few presbyters, elders, Jehovah Witnesses, with the helps from unbelievers, politicians, businessmen, even some from BPC themselves came to agreement for a conspiracy, to destroy the BPC, and they had thought out a way to trap the BPC. They had made a place called "The widow maker" in Bible Presbyterian Church! Many preachers from BPC came to the "the widow maker" and there they hurl the attack on them one by one until they fallen in trays.
Many full time workers in BPC were hurt spiritually and mentally even physically, they are under the siege from these enemies within and without internationally and locally.
The Verbal Plenary Preservation is not the biggest problem to BPC, the common enemy for BPC is coming from without the Christianity, the Jehovah Witness and their friends, the unbelievers, the secular men and women, they forgot that, that is why they are fighting among themselves, no, they must not do that another day, they must united once again to preach the old time Gospel, and there is a cost in following Christ! God do not forgot their hard labours in BPC, surely God have preserved His men and women in BPC!
Arise, men and women in BPC, sound your trumpet! Unite under the banner of Christ, the King of kings. Stand still, until the sun stands still, and make wars until to the end.
Unite the sons and daughters of God in BPC! Do not split over minor issues!
Remember the day Christ had been nailed between the thieves! From there God forgives us!
written by a pervert?
6.7.09
The mode of Baptism
I hope this is an offend to you, this is only a joke, please do not take this seriously, this is the way some of us gone through, theological debates, and we have win, win situation, that sprinkling and immersion are accepted in Christianity.
One day a Presbyterian old pastor said, less water more faith, more water less faith, he was talking about the mode of baptism.
This is only a joke again, this is a man made story, a Presbyterian pastor asked the baptist pastor, "If the river is very shallow, the water reach only the toe, can this be a baptism"
The baptist pastor said, "No"
The Presbyterian pastor asked again, "If the water only reached knee level, and so the man immersed the knee into the water, is this a baptism?"
baptist pastor, "No."
And the Presbyterian pastor asked the baptist pastor again, if the water reach until waist level, only the waist level immersed into water, can we call this a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says, "No."
And so the Presbyterian pastor asked the baptist pastor, again, if the water level reached until the chest level, and the man only immersed until the chest, the rest not immersed into water, can this be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says "No!"
The Presbyterian pastor asked again, "what about if he immersed only reached until neck level, the water only reached the neck, can this be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says, "No."
The Presbyterian pastor, asked again, "what if the water reached the nose level, immersed until nose, the head is not yet immerse, can this be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor says, "No."
The Presbyterian pastor asked him again, "what if the water reached the forehead level, immersed until only the forehead, the top of the head not yet cover with water, can this considered a baptism?"
The baptist pastor says, "No."
The Presbyterian pastor asked him, "Then to what level, does a immersion be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says, "The water must reached the top of the head, the water must immersed the head top."
The Presbyterian pastor, says gladly to the baptist pastor, "Aha, I see, the top of the head is the most important part, that is why, I use a little water for sprinkling the head to baptize the man, less water more faith, the water wet the whole head top, that is enough, and this can be called a baptism! No need to immersed a man totally into the water! So the mode of sprinkle is more biblical and practical than immersion!"
The baptist pastor disagreed with the Presbyterian pastor in sprinkling the man, so the baptist pastor, asked the Presbyterian pastor some questions back.
The baptist pastor asked, "what if you go for a shower, what if the water only washed your toes, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor replied, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body until the knee cap, and you did not wash the other part, can it be called a shower?"
The presbyterian pastor says, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body until the waist level, and you did not wash the other part of your body, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor says, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body until the chest from the toe, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor says, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body from toe until the neck, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor, says, "No, the shower is not completed."
The baptist pastor asked the the Presbyterian pastor again, "what if you only wash your body until the nose level, can it be called a shower."
The Presbyterian pastor, says, "No, the shower is still not completed, even we wash from the toe until the nose level."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "What if he washed until the forehead level, can this be called a shower?"
the Presbyterian pastor says, "No, this is not a shower, even thought he washed the toe until the forehead. It is not complete!"
The baptist pastor asked him again, this time he is quite happy with the answered he received, "WHAT IF HE ONLY WASH HIS HEAD TOP WITH WATER, CAN WE CALLED THIS AS A SHOWER?"
The presbyterian pastor says, "No!???"
Lastly the baptist pastor asked him, "what if he use the water to washed the whole body, from the toes until the top of the head, is this is a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor says, "Yes, now this is called a shower, because he washed his body completely."
The baptist pastor says to the Presbyterian pastor, "You are right in saying that, that is why you need to wash your whole body, you must not only sprinkle the head! You must use much more water to wash the body, until the whole body is washed, this is proven, the man must immersed into water totally!"
TECHNICALLY, The writer in this case agreed with the baptist to immerse the man into the water wholly so that the baptism is completed, more water is needed in the baptism, more water is more faith, and it is also biblical, I put this in term of technically, but it is not compulsory! Not compulsory, why, let me write down this part of debate and then you see the second part. This is only for you to think when we are in debate.
One day Jesus washed his disciples, he said, those who had taken the shower or bath do not need to washed the whole body, only he had to wash the feet, because the feet are unclean, after a day walking on the street. Jesus proposed to us to washed the whole body in the bath! What about the baptism?
John 13:10,
Jesus answered, "A person who has had a bath needs only to wash his feet; his whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you." 11 For he knew who was going to betray him, and that was why he said not every one was clean.
The Lord said a bath, mean a man whole body is cleansed with water.
Can we compared an immersion with a shower? Quite hard for the Presbyterian pastor to accept the out come of their discourse and debate. Maybe you will not agreed with me in comparing baptism with a shower, you may argue with me that is wrong! This is only technically an argument!
But I tell you the truth, Paul compared our baptism with burial service! Romans 6:4, Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
We are buried with him by baptism....How to buried a man? Are we going to bury a man, what kind of burial, until the toe level? Bury a man to the knee level, is this a burial? No. What if the soil cover until the waist level, is this a burial? No! What if the soil cover the body until the chest level, can we call this a burial, no! Then what if cover the body until the neck level? Nose level? Forehead level? No, the burial is not complete! So what is a burial, a burial means all part of the body is put under ground!
"This is accomplished by excavating a pit or trench, placing an object in it, and covering it over." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial)
Technically speaking the baptist has their say! But as I told you in the beginning, this is a kind of debate easily be found in seminary, where we do not take this seriously in the church now a day, we treat this kind of debate lightly. We accept immersion and sprinkling, both as the correct mode of baptism.
What matter most is, the man is truly saved or not? Does he believes Christ as personal Savior or not?
I think, you better forget what I wrote here.
One day a Presbyterian old pastor said, less water more faith, more water less faith, he was talking about the mode of baptism.
This is only a joke again, this is a man made story, a Presbyterian pastor asked the baptist pastor, "If the river is very shallow, the water reach only the toe, can this be a baptism"
The baptist pastor said, "No"
The Presbyterian pastor asked again, "If the water only reached knee level, and so the man immersed the knee into the water, is this a baptism?"
baptist pastor, "No."
And the Presbyterian pastor asked the baptist pastor again, if the water reach until waist level, only the waist level immersed into water, can we call this a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says, "No."
And so the Presbyterian pastor asked the baptist pastor, again, if the water level reached until the chest level, and the man only immersed until the chest, the rest not immersed into water, can this be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says "No!"
The Presbyterian pastor asked again, "what about if he immersed only reached until neck level, the water only reached the neck, can this be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says, "No."
The Presbyterian pastor, asked again, "what if the water reached the nose level, immersed until nose, the head is not yet immerse, can this be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor says, "No."
The Presbyterian pastor asked him again, "what if the water reached the forehead level, immersed until only the forehead, the top of the head not yet cover with water, can this considered a baptism?"
The baptist pastor says, "No."
The Presbyterian pastor asked him, "Then to what level, does a immersion be called a baptism?"
The baptist pastor, says, "The water must reached the top of the head, the water must immersed the head top."
The Presbyterian pastor, says gladly to the baptist pastor, "Aha, I see, the top of the head is the most important part, that is why, I use a little water for sprinkling the head to baptize the man, less water more faith, the water wet the whole head top, that is enough, and this can be called a baptism! No need to immersed a man totally into the water! So the mode of sprinkle is more biblical and practical than immersion!"
The baptist pastor disagreed with the Presbyterian pastor in sprinkling the man, so the baptist pastor, asked the Presbyterian pastor some questions back.
The baptist pastor asked, "what if you go for a shower, what if the water only washed your toes, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor replied, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body until the knee cap, and you did not wash the other part, can it be called a shower?"
The presbyterian pastor says, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body until the waist level, and you did not wash the other part of your body, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor says, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body until the chest from the toe, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor says, "No."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "what if you only wash your body from toe until the neck, can it be called a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor, says, "No, the shower is not completed."
The baptist pastor asked the the Presbyterian pastor again, "what if you only wash your body until the nose level, can it be called a shower."
The Presbyterian pastor, says, "No, the shower is still not completed, even we wash from the toe until the nose level."
The baptist pastor asked him again, "What if he washed until the forehead level, can this be called a shower?"
the Presbyterian pastor says, "No, this is not a shower, even thought he washed the toe until the forehead. It is not complete!"
The baptist pastor asked him again, this time he is quite happy with the answered he received, "WHAT IF HE ONLY WASH HIS HEAD TOP WITH WATER, CAN WE CALLED THIS AS A SHOWER?"
The presbyterian pastor says, "No!???"
Lastly the baptist pastor asked him, "what if he use the water to washed the whole body, from the toes until the top of the head, is this is a shower?"
The Presbyterian pastor says, "Yes, now this is called a shower, because he washed his body completely."
The baptist pastor says to the Presbyterian pastor, "You are right in saying that, that is why you need to wash your whole body, you must not only sprinkle the head! You must use much more water to wash the body, until the whole body is washed, this is proven, the man must immersed into water totally!"
TECHNICALLY, The writer in this case agreed with the baptist to immerse the man into the water wholly so that the baptism is completed, more water is needed in the baptism, more water is more faith, and it is also biblical, I put this in term of technically, but it is not compulsory! Not compulsory, why, let me write down this part of debate and then you see the second part. This is only for you to think when we are in debate.
One day Jesus washed his disciples, he said, those who had taken the shower or bath do not need to washed the whole body, only he had to wash the feet, because the feet are unclean, after a day walking on the street. Jesus proposed to us to washed the whole body in the bath! What about the baptism?
John 13:10,
Jesus answered, "A person who has had a bath needs only to wash his feet; his whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you." 11 For he knew who was going to betray him, and that was why he said not every one was clean.
The Lord said a bath, mean a man whole body is cleansed with water.
Can we compared an immersion with a shower? Quite hard for the Presbyterian pastor to accept the out come of their discourse and debate. Maybe you will not agreed with me in comparing baptism with a shower, you may argue with me that is wrong! This is only technically an argument!
But I tell you the truth, Paul compared our baptism with burial service! Romans 6:4, Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
We are buried with him by baptism....How to buried a man? Are we going to bury a man, what kind of burial, until the toe level? Bury a man to the knee level, is this a burial? No. What if the soil cover until the waist level, is this a burial? No! What if the soil cover the body until the chest level, can we call this a burial, no! Then what if cover the body until the neck level? Nose level? Forehead level? No, the burial is not complete! So what is a burial, a burial means all part of the body is put under ground!
"This is accomplished by excavating a pit or trench, placing an object in it, and covering it over." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial)
Technically speaking the baptist has their say! But as I told you in the beginning, this is a kind of debate easily be found in seminary, where we do not take this seriously in the church now a day, we treat this kind of debate lightly. We accept immersion and sprinkling, both as the correct mode of baptism.
What matter most is, the man is truly saved or not? Does he believes Christ as personal Savior or not?
I think, you better forget what I wrote here.
www.codexsinaiticus.org
Historic Bible pages put online
A fragment of the manuscript
There are new opportunities for scholars, experts say
About 800 pages of the earliest surviving Christian Bible have been recovered and put on the internet.
Visitors to the website www.codexsinaiticus.org can now see images of more than half of the 1,600-year-old Codex Sinaiticus manuscript.
Fragments of the 4th Century document - written in Greek on parchment leaves - have been worked on by institutions in the UK, Germany, Egypt and Russia.
Experts say it is "a window into the development of early Christianity".
Preservation secrets
Dr Scot McKendrick, head of Western manuscripts at the British Library, said the wide availability of the document presented many research opportunities.
"The Codex Sinaiticus is one of the world's greatest written treasures," he said.
This 1,600-year-old manuscript offers a window into the development of early Christianity
Dr Scot McKendrick
British Library
What's missing from the Codex Sinaiticus?
"This 1,600-year-old manuscript offers a window into the development of early Christianity and first-hand evidence of how the text of the Bible was transmitted from generation to generation.
"The availability of the virtual manuscript for study by scholars around the world creates opportunities for collaborative research that would not have been possible just a few years ago."
The original version contained about 1,460 pages - each measuring 40cm by 35cm, he added.
To British Library is marking the online launch of the manuscript with an exhibition - which includes a range of historic items and artefacts linked to the document.
For 1,500 years, the Codex Sinaiticus lay undisturbed in a Sinai monastery, until it was found in 1844 and split between Egypt, Russia, Germany and Britain.
It is thought to have survived because the desert air was ideal for preservation and because the monastery, on a Christian island in a Muslim sea, remained untouched, its walls unconquered.
The institutions' pain-staking work can now be seen at www.codexsinaiticus.org.
A fragment of the manuscript
There are new opportunities for scholars, experts say
About 800 pages of the earliest surviving Christian Bible have been recovered and put on the internet.
Visitors to the website www.codexsinaiticus.org can now see images of more than half of the 1,600-year-old Codex Sinaiticus manuscript.
Fragments of the 4th Century document - written in Greek on parchment leaves - have been worked on by institutions in the UK, Germany, Egypt and Russia.
Experts say it is "a window into the development of early Christianity".
Preservation secrets
Dr Scot McKendrick, head of Western manuscripts at the British Library, said the wide availability of the document presented many research opportunities.
"The Codex Sinaiticus is one of the world's greatest written treasures," he said.
This 1,600-year-old manuscript offers a window into the development of early Christianity
Dr Scot McKendrick
British Library
What's missing from the Codex Sinaiticus?
"This 1,600-year-old manuscript offers a window into the development of early Christianity and first-hand evidence of how the text of the Bible was transmitted from generation to generation.
"The availability of the virtual manuscript for study by scholars around the world creates opportunities for collaborative research that would not have been possible just a few years ago."
The original version contained about 1,460 pages - each measuring 40cm by 35cm, he added.
To British Library is marking the online launch of the manuscript with an exhibition - which includes a range of historic items and artefacts linked to the document.
For 1,500 years, the Codex Sinaiticus lay undisturbed in a Sinai monastery, until it was found in 1844 and split between Egypt, Russia, Germany and Britain.
It is thought to have survived because the desert air was ideal for preservation and because the monastery, on a Christian island in a Muslim sea, remained untouched, its walls unconquered.
The institutions' pain-staking work can now be seen at www.codexsinaiticus.org.
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