One day a few pastors got together to organize an event in the town, in that meeting, they have some problems hard to solve, one of the pastor suggested to seek help from a local politician!
Another Indian church leader was furious in hearing that suggestion seeking help from a politician, he told other pastors openly, "If any one of you mention again any politician in our meetings in the future, or suggesting seeking helping from those politicians, I am going to bring a big and long wooden stick into the meeting, to whack the pastors who suggest so!" He was angry when churches seeking helps from those evil and corrupted politicians, this is what happened to our country and churches!
I felt very funny in the way that Indian church leader put his words together, and laughed about that for few weeks! "A wooden stick in pastor's meeting!" How about that! You know how evil and corrupted the politicians here have become, even we cannot mention them in our meeting, do not ever say or try to seek help from them!
What about those theologians who are teaching wrong teaching, what kind of stick we have to bring for them! Beware!
THIS BLOG HAS STRONG LANGUAGE. READER DISCRETION IS ADVICED.
Jan 23, 2017
A few illustrations for Verbal Plenary Preservation (VPP)
A Christian may becomes a prolific critique, or a commentator and an active participant of social and political affairs in the country, but then he is not to provoke any one to riot, that is the limit of my writings!
Lion dance!
When I was very young as a young child, during the yearly Chinese New Year, I was looking forward for the lion dancer to come to my house, to dance with the drums and burning fire crackers. Many a time, I was turned down, they did not come to my house, those lion dancers ignore our house, maybe because the money in the red packet for them is too little, even I waited for them for whole week during the Chinese New Year! What a disappointment to me.
People believed the lion dance may brings us luck and chase away ghosts and evil spirits. That is why they open their homes for them. This is not true!
Lion dance!
When I was very young as a young child, during the yearly Chinese New Year, I was looking forward for the lion dancer to come to my house, to dance with the drums and burning fire crackers. Many a time, I was turned down, they did not come to my house, those lion dancers ignore our house, maybe because the money in the red packet for them is too little, even I waited for them for whole week during the Chinese New Year! What a disappointment to me.
People believed the lion dance may brings us luck and chase away ghosts and evil spirits. That is why they open their homes for them. This is not true!
Verbal Plenary Preservation is like a "VPP lion dance," it comes and go unexpectedly, loud and fast, after a few minutes, they will leave us, to collect more red packets at another place. My dear, this "VPP lion," will come and go in an unexpected time, so let it be. They will make a lot of noises here and there, some are happy about that lion, they have wrong expectation from a lion dance, but at the end every thing be at peace. For me, Verbal Plenary Preservation is like a lion dance, it is not the real lion! I have no superstitious, like lion dance bringing luck to us, never! Those dancers are for idols worshippers!
After I believed in Christ, I began to ignore lion dance, it is not important any more, now I have Christ Jesus, He bring us better thing, the eternal life and forgiveness! My dear, please ignore those colourful VPP lion dance, it is not important! Rather, we dance with one another in unity, like David dances before his people! I dance because I have Jesus, not because of Verbal Plenary Preservation!
Bye, bye, lion dancers!
After I believed in Christ, I began to ignore lion dance, it is not important any more, now I have Christ Jesus, He bring us better thing, the eternal life and forgiveness! My dear, please ignore those colourful VPP lion dance, it is not important! Rather, we dance with one another in unity, like David dances before his people! I dance because I have Jesus, not because of Verbal Plenary Preservation!
Bye, bye, lion dancers!
Oath of love for ever.
A couple of young man and woman fell in love with first sight, they were dating for many years. One night, the man swore in an oath, promising to love her forever, and he prayed to God Jahweh for their relationship, under the full moon, he laid his hand to his lover's head, and he swore, to love her for ever! But then after some time, they broke off! The man married another young lovely lady and his first sight lover married another handsome man!
What happened to his oath? He has to keep it or not? He has to bear this oath for ever? Since he had swore to love his first sight lover forever, but now he breaks his promise and oath and married another lady, he was very sad in breaking his oath, he was also very sad, in keeping his oath, he has to love another man's wife! He was confused for many years, to keep or not to keep his oath?
Now, the "ten commandments" comes into picture, when this man read the Bible, the Bible says "do not cover another man's wife." At last this man relieved himself from bearing his oath forever! Now he knows he has to love his own wife! That oath already void and invalid! Remember, our Bible verse overrules every oaths we made, we better not to promise any one in an oath in haste, without deep considerations!
The Bible overrules even that Dean Burgon Oath, for me this Dean Burgun oath is actually like a foolish oath done by a young man in haste, and when he is old, he regrets for the oath he had done, he broke that oath after sometimes!
I hope those theologians who had taken the Dean Burgun Oath will one day awake from delusion, that oath means nothing compare to the sacrifice Jesus Christ done for us on the cross two thousand years ago! Burgun did not die for us, but Jesus is!
I hope every BP Christians can say to one another, till death do us apart! This is the most important oath we can make in the church! Amen! I sent you great greetings from My Lord Jesus Christ, Who stand by me, and encourage me to pen this words to those who are in Christ, Be Peace! BP! Amen!
The Dean Be Gone, Copies All right !!!
To Dean Burgon...
The Bible is none other than the voice of Him that sitteth upon the Throne!
Every Book of it, every chapter of it, every verse of it, every word of it, every syllable of it, every letter of it, is the direct utterance of the Most High!
The Bible is none other than the Word of God: not some part of it more, some part of it less; but all alike, the utterance of Him who sitteth upon the Throne; faultless, unerring, supreme!
This Perfect Bible is referring to the Original Text by the original authors! We now have 99.9% of the original texts given to mankind even in KJV and other translations. And Verbal Plenary Preservation is saying only the underlying text of the KJV is 100% perfect, is a teaching from earthly men not from heaven!
Here we are, we are not "kia si" to read the King James Version, and we are not "kia su" to read the Chinese union Version, in this stand and we are unite! Take up our clean hands, open our clean mouths, break our clean hearts and start to pray. Amen, Amen and Amen!
Every one in the Church, is brother in Christ, every one of it, every one of the church is in Christ! Amen.
The Dean Be Gone, Copies All right !!!
The Bible is none other than the voice of Him that sitteth upon the Throne!
Every Book of it, every chapter of it, every verse of it, every word of it, every syllable of it, every letter of it, is the direct utterance of the Most High!
The Bible is none other than the Word of God: not some part of it more, some part of it less; but all alike, the utterance of Him who sitteth upon the Throne; faultless, unerring, supreme!
This Perfect Bible is referring to the Original Text by the original authors! We now have 99.9% of the original texts given to mankind even in KJV and other translations. And Verbal Plenary Preservation is saying only the underlying text of the KJV is 100% perfect, is a teaching from earthly men not from heaven!
Here we are, we are not "kia si" to read the King James Version, and we are not "kia su" to read the Chinese union Version, in this stand and we are unite! Take up our clean hands, open our clean mouths, break our clean hearts and start to pray. Amen, Amen and Amen!
Every one in the Church, is brother in Christ, every one of it, every one of the church is in Christ! Amen.
The Dean Be Gone, Copies All right !!!
Urban Legend?
One full moon night in the month of January 2010, a young man went to a rural sea side, there he prayed for his life, family and ministry, he was alone at that time.
He asked a sign from God in the sky, to know what kind of life worth living! After some times, some dark clouds formed in the full moon sky, dark clouds. Many shapes of cloud moved through that full broom moon, the sky was bright clear shined by the moonlight! The clouds were very vivid to that young man.
One cloud formed miraculously like a big dark fish in the sky, it then blew by the strong wind moved towards the moon, and then covered the moon, and lastly passed the moon. The young man remembered the Bible says we are to become a fisher of man. That scenery did really impressed deeply the young man, such a cloud look alike a big black fish, a sign from God for his request? What a feeling, his was in spirit awesomely, looking at that cloud, a moment in his life! He was happy to see that kind of weird thing happened before his eyes!
After the clouds disappeared before him, and he continue to pray for a time, and then he drove home, within a few minutes after the car started to move, a cat with a living fish in its mouth, the cat was biting the living fish, the cat run quickly across the road, the young man stopped his car to look at the cat, the young man acclaimed in his heart, "Fish! Fish" This time, the man remembered "Double is confirmation!" Two sightings of fish in a night of prayer! Amen, amen.
My dear, we are to set apart our time and money for God's use, and offer our whole life to become a fisher of man! Your life, which you yourself do not want or appreciate, please give it back to God, God wanted to change your life to be a fisher of man!
Take up the CUV Bible, march forward, army of God, be a fisher of man! "Fisherman catches more and bigger fish!" This life is worth for us to live on!
Faith come by hearing, hearing by the word of God!
"....The VPP of Scripture is a position of faith that is based solely on the Word of God."
I personally do not agree on this statement!
Just in case, they quoted this verse, “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Rom 10:17) to support their VPP.
VPP is a blind faith, not base on the Word of God, VPP is a teaching from man, not from God's Word! Where in the Bible, saying that we have only one perfect Bible translation! Tell me that verse! And which Bible verse say we have many other corrupted Bible translation, for example Chinese Union Version.
In saying Chinese Union Version is a corrupted Bible translation, they are attacking the Chinese Bible, it is attacking those who translating the Bible into Chinese language! Are they the translators not pious than us, more pious than those false theologians? Who are we to attack those devoted Chinese Bible translators! Great sin in attacking them! We believe Chinese Bible is not perfect, but it is accepted as our Bible translation! There are better Bible translations, off course!
The day those theologians split and chase after the Chinese Pastors away, that day they have done a great sin unto the Body of God! Listen to this, "the body of Christ is one!" This is well know in our Bible. Never before we have any time this in our Bible "the Bible of Christ is one!" No, never!
The devil try to confuse some of us, and the theologians have believe in its lies!
I personally do not agree on this statement!
Just in case, they quoted this verse, “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Rom 10:17) to support their VPP.
VPP is a blind faith, not base on the Word of God, VPP is a teaching from man, not from God's Word! Where in the Bible, saying that we have only one perfect Bible translation! Tell me that verse! And which Bible verse say we have many other corrupted Bible translation, for example Chinese Union Version.
In saying Chinese Union Version is a corrupted Bible translation, they are attacking the Chinese Bible, it is attacking those who translating the Bible into Chinese language! Are they the translators not pious than us, more pious than those false theologians? Who are we to attack those devoted Chinese Bible translators! Great sin in attacking them! We believe Chinese Bible is not perfect, but it is accepted as our Bible translation! There are better Bible translations, off course!
The day those theologians split and chase after the Chinese Pastors away, that day they have done a great sin unto the Body of God! Listen to this, "the body of Christ is one!" This is well know in our Bible. Never before we have any time this in our Bible "the Bible of Christ is one!" No, never!
The devil try to confuse some of us, and the theologians have believe in its lies!
Keywords: Childlike and Childish
We have childlike faith in KJV and CUV, this is good, we are called to be born again, Mark 10:15, "I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it." And then we are called to live in the kingdom of God like a child! Generously we can accept one another childlike trust in God!
How many Bible translations does God has? A lot more, more than a dozen! Does God like CUV and KJV? Yes, He does! Even when God created man, He said it is very Good! God given tribes and boundaries to every one, and He loves them! Israel has 12 tribes too, and even the world is made with many oceans!
I am humorous and funny. Why? Because I like to joke! But there are times to be serious!
Suppose I have ten children under a roof, how many pair of shoes we have? I asked the VPP theologians, they said only one! Only one, the perfect one for us! But I told them again and again, we have more than 12 pairs of shoes naturally!
They get angry when they provoked by my illustration, in saying I took lightly "one perfect Bible" to compare to "a pair of shoes!" I wanted them to think correctly, how can we have only one perfect translation in whole world with different tribes and languages?
Until they get mad with me and pull my head, and grabbed my hair, and make my head bold with a hair cut, because they say in the Bible we are to be bold, they misqouted some Bible verses to support their views, "Luke 11:8, I tell you, though he will not get up and give him the bread because he is his friend, yet because of the man's boldness he will get up and give him as much as he needs. And Acts 4:29, Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness." The theologians said there are words like, "boldness," so we are to have bold head!
The theologians said VPP is what they teach, the word "perfect" is used onto the Bible, this is what VPP all about, so we are to make our Bible, as perfect as the original copy, we are to reproduce the authenticated Bible! The authorised KJV is not good enough, we must have this authenticated Greek and Hebrew Bible! Then they provoked some followers to take oaths on this VPP!
I see these theologians are childish, they do not have child like trust like us!
Weekly
NON-VPP church
Vol 03032010
The Renewing of the Mind
I like to tell the young people about this "Holy Bible" What is the meaning of the words, "Holy Bible" printed in the cover of every Bible, in Chinese, in English, in Malay, in whatever translation, what is that "Holy Bible" means to us?
I do not like to tell them "Vun Ne" Bible Only." "Vun Ne" mean "one" in a local Indian dialect. I do not like to tell them a lie, a lie like we have only one perfect Bible in this world in KJV. Nor in the underlying text, in the Greek and Hebrew!
When we are wrong we are wrong! We cannot fix that in the high court! Merciful is the followers of Christ!
Scripture explains scripture! Another thing, Bible translation explains Bible translations. KJV explains CUV!
What is the meaning of "Holy Bible"
‘Holy’: in the sense of being dedicated to God, no reference being made here to ‘purity’ of ‘perfection’. ‘Acceptable’ Thus, to be godly, is to give up, ourselves to God. (Ro 12:3-8)
It is in this sense of "Holy," the Bible is and was a Book dedicated and consecrated to and for God, not to man only, nor to theologians only, but to God and His faithfully followers, to judge the world and ourselves with it.
Do not put ourselves higher than God, if we do, we are like Lucifer, let God's way higher than us, His way is higher than us!
May God bless us!
Verse for the Week:
Psalm 104:15
And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Thought in this week:
Wine can make your heart glad? Think about this!
Song of the week!
"One bottle, two bottles, three little Indians."
Vol 03032010
The Renewing of the Mind
I like to tell the young people about this "Holy Bible" What is the meaning of the words, "Holy Bible" printed in the cover of every Bible, in Chinese, in English, in Malay, in whatever translation, what is that "Holy Bible" means to us?
I do not like to tell them "Vun Ne" Bible Only." "Vun Ne" mean "one" in a local Indian dialect. I do not like to tell them a lie, a lie like we have only one perfect Bible in this world in KJV. Nor in the underlying text, in the Greek and Hebrew!
When we are wrong we are wrong! We cannot fix that in the high court! Merciful is the followers of Christ!
Scripture explains scripture! Another thing, Bible translation explains Bible translations. KJV explains CUV!
What is the meaning of "Holy Bible"
‘Holy’: in the sense of being dedicated to God, no reference being made here to ‘purity’ of ‘perfection’. ‘Acceptable’ Thus, to be godly, is to give up, ourselves to God. (Ro 12:3-8)
It is in this sense of "Holy," the Bible is and was a Book dedicated and consecrated to and for God, not to man only, nor to theologians only, but to God and His faithfully followers, to judge the world and ourselves with it.
Do not put ourselves higher than God, if we do, we are like Lucifer, let God's way higher than us, His way is higher than us!
May God bless us!
Verse for the Week:
Psalm 104:15
And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
Thought in this week:
Wine can make your heart glad? Think about this!
Song of the week!
"One bottle, two bottles, three little Indians."
A thousand years
2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Revelation 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Satan is thrown from earth into the Abyss. When did this happen in mankind? This is a very important question, for those who believe "Kingdom Now." and for those who venture to far like the VPP theologians.
Revelation chapter 20 in Matthew Henry:
Here is a vision, showing by a figure the restraints laid on Satan himself. Christ, with Almighty power, will keep the devil from deceiving mankind as he has hitherto done. He never wants power and instruments to break the power of Satan. Christ shuts by his power, and seals by his authority. The church shall have a time of peace and prosperity, but all her trials are not yet over. (Rev 20:4-6).............
Christianity, in doctrine, worship, and holiness, will be made known over all the earth. By the all-powerful working of the Holy Spirit, fallen man will be new-created; and faith and holiness will as certainly prevail, as unbelief and unholiness now do.......
No sooner is Satan let loose, than he again begins deceiving the nations, and stirring them up to make war with the saints and servants of God. It would be well if the servants and ministers of Christ were as active and persevering in doing good, as his enemies in doing mischief. God will fight this last and decisive battle for his people, that the victory may be complete..........
Christ will judge the secrets of all men according to the gospel. Who shall dwell with devouring flames?.......
My dear, Verbal Plenary Preservation, a small doctrine here and there, cannot save you! But the whole Gospel is!
Look, what Paul tell us again, and again!
1 Corinthians 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
What have we believed in? A little leaven like VPP? a little bottle of wine? What did Paul stressed?
Jesus Christ is our Saviour and God! Dead and resurrected, sacrificed once and for all, once and for all!
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Revelation 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Satan is thrown from earth into the Abyss. When did this happen in mankind? This is a very important question, for those who believe "Kingdom Now." and for those who venture to far like the VPP theologians.
Revelation chapter 20 in Matthew Henry:
Here is a vision, showing by a figure the restraints laid on Satan himself. Christ, with Almighty power, will keep the devil from deceiving mankind as he has hitherto done. He never wants power and instruments to break the power of Satan. Christ shuts by his power, and seals by his authority. The church shall have a time of peace and prosperity, but all her trials are not yet over. (Rev 20:4-6).............
Christianity, in doctrine, worship, and holiness, will be made known over all the earth. By the all-powerful working of the Holy Spirit, fallen man will be new-created; and faith and holiness will as certainly prevail, as unbelief and unholiness now do.......
No sooner is Satan let loose, than he again begins deceiving the nations, and stirring them up to make war with the saints and servants of God. It would be well if the servants and ministers of Christ were as active and persevering in doing good, as his enemies in doing mischief. God will fight this last and decisive battle for his people, that the victory may be complete..........
Christ will judge the secrets of all men according to the gospel. Who shall dwell with devouring flames?.......
My dear, Verbal Plenary Preservation, a small doctrine here and there, cannot save you! But the whole Gospel is!
Look, what Paul tell us again, and again!
1 Corinthians 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
What have we believed in? A little leaven like VPP? a little bottle of wine? What did Paul stressed?
Jesus Christ is our Saviour and God! Dead and resurrected, sacrificed once and for all, once and for all!
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
South East Asian will be shaken
I will pray this time, South East Asian will be shaken! Until you forget about VPP, some say that is the great awakening!
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