1Jn 3:18 Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth. (ESV)
1Jn 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. (KJV)
We are now still quarreling for "word" and "tongue," But John say we are to love in deed and in truth!
John does not condemn kind words which are comforting and cheering, but warm words should be accompanied by warm deeds to make real “in deed and in truth” (en ergōi kai alētheiāi). Here is a case where actions do speak louder than mere words and tongue speaking!
In such acts as shall show that our professed love is sincere and real. Let us do the deed of love, whether anything is said about it or not.
Christian charity stands not in word nor tongue speaking, but in deed, and proceeds from a sincere affection.
When the venerable John could no longer walk to the meetings of the Church but was borne thither by his disciples, he always uttered the same address to the Church; he reminded them of that one commandment which he had received from Christ Himself, as comprising all the rest, and forming the distinction of the new covenant, “My little children, love one another.” When the brethren present, wearied of hearing the same thing so often, asked why he always repeated the same thing, he replied, “Because it is the commandment of the Lord, and if this one thing be attained, it is enough” [Jerome].
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Jan 23, 2017
About tongue speaking in B-P Churches
Mark 16:17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues;
The tongue in Corinthian Church is the new tongues, the tongue in Acts is the old tongues!
1Co 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.
There were and are various kinds of tongues, so, Charismatic tongue speaking is a kind of tongue!
Paul wants us to speak in tongues
1 Cor. 14:5 "I want you all to speak in tongues." Paul's desire to set boundaries on speaking in tongues does not mean that he thinks the Corinthians should abandon this gift. It builds up the individual who has it (v. 4), and, if interpreted, builds up the church. (See also vv. 13, 18, 27, 39.) Still, prophecy is greater because, as intelligible speech that needs no interpretation, it is more directly useful to the church. Unless someone interprets implies that if there is an interpreter, then prophecy and tongues have equal value, since then they would both be understandable. But equal value does not imply that the gifts have the same function, for prophecy is based on something that God suddenly brings to the mind of the speaker, and thus is communication from God to man (vv. 25, 30; cf. Acts 11:28; 21:4, 10–11), while tongues is ordinarily prayer or praise from man to God (1 Cor. 14:2, 14–17, 28; cf. Acts 10:46).
The tongue in Corinthian Church is the new tongues, the tongue in Acts is the old tongues!
1Co 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.
There were and are various kinds of tongues, so, Charismatic tongue speaking is a kind of tongue!
Paul wants us to speak in tongues
1 Cor. 14:5 "I want you all to speak in tongues." Paul's desire to set boundaries on speaking in tongues does not mean that he thinks the Corinthians should abandon this gift. It builds up the individual who has it (v. 4), and, if interpreted, builds up the church. (See also vv. 13, 18, 27, 39.) Still, prophecy is greater because, as intelligible speech that needs no interpretation, it is more directly useful to the church. Unless someone interprets implies that if there is an interpreter, then prophecy and tongues have equal value, since then they would both be understandable. But equal value does not imply that the gifts have the same function, for prophecy is based on something that God suddenly brings to the mind of the speaker, and thus is communication from God to man (vv. 25, 30; cf. Acts 11:28; 21:4, 10–11), while tongues is ordinarily prayer or praise from man to God (1 Cor. 14:2, 14–17, 28; cf. Acts 10:46).
VPP is heresy?
You like to say "God has preserved 100% of His words."
But where? Which Manuscript? Which Text?
Show me!
Be honest! Do not tell lie, if you do not know, just say I do not know!
If you are not sure, just say, I am not sure!
When you tell a lie in the first place, people will not trust you anymore, especially doctrinal issues, and you are son of the devil in telling lies.
You became a false prophet, false teacher, heretic!
But where? Which Manuscript? Which Text?
Show me!
Be honest! Do not tell lie, if you do not know, just say I do not know!
If you are not sure, just say, I am not sure!
When you tell a lie in the first place, people will not trust you anymore, especially doctrinal issues, and you are son of the devil in telling lies.
You became a false prophet, false teacher, heretic!
Cat Dog fight in court
Life Bible Presbyterian Church is now fighting with Far Eastern Bible College, verbally and spiritually, they are indulge in close range warfare. It is sad to see these things happened to Christians.
What I can say is, they are still human. Easily fallen in sin.
What I can say is, they are still human. Easily fallen in sin.
The funny mentalist.
We have ordinary hard head fundamentalists, I called them the funny mentalist.
Their arrogance with their man-made VPP-KJV-only theory.
They want every one to talk and walk like them.
First step they probably take on you: they will try to turn over you, they want to brain wash you to accept their funnymental, VPP-KJV-only. They want you to respect them at the same time.
If you reject their view at this point of time.
They will take the Second step: they try to stay away some distances from you, but they are still warning you. Hoping you will repent from sin of rejecting their "truth"
If you still reject them at this point of time.
They will take the third step: they will try to say to you, "stay away from us," and they will call your name names, like "Neo-Evangelical, liberals, modernist...."
If you still reject them at this point of time.
They will take the forth step: they will see you like seeing ghosts, they treat you as an unbeliever.
They probably will take the last stand to ask you to leave fundamentalists alone, they want you to avoid criticize them, do not touch them, be silent and serve the Lord as usual...and it is suggested to me by these funny mentalist, it is better for me to leave fundamentalism, since I do not like fundamentalism so much, just leave fundamentalism, go away and take another stand like Evangelical or Neo-Evangelical...They indirectly said to me, "I do not like to see your face in fundamental circle!"
I had met many of these funny mentalist in Bible Presbyterian Churches, still they want some respects from us in the end after all those unnecessary squabbles!
They like to say to every one, "For you cannot do anything against our truth, but only for the truth."
Funny but it is true.
Their arrogance with their man-made VPP-KJV-only theory.
They want every one to talk and walk like them.
First step they probably take on you: they will try to turn over you, they want to brain wash you to accept their funnymental, VPP-KJV-only. They want you to respect them at the same time.
If you reject their view at this point of time.
They will take the Second step: they try to stay away some distances from you, but they are still warning you. Hoping you will repent from sin of rejecting their "truth"
If you still reject them at this point of time.
They will take the third step: they will try to say to you, "stay away from us," and they will call your name names, like "Neo-Evangelical, liberals, modernist...."
If you still reject them at this point of time.
They will take the forth step: they will see you like seeing ghosts, they treat you as an unbeliever.
They probably will take the last stand to ask you to leave fundamentalists alone, they want you to avoid criticize them, do not touch them, be silent and serve the Lord as usual...and it is suggested to me by these funny mentalist, it is better for me to leave fundamentalism, since I do not like fundamentalism so much, just leave fundamentalism, go away and take another stand like Evangelical or Neo-Evangelical...They indirectly said to me, "I do not like to see your face in fundamental circle!"
I had met many of these funny mentalist in Bible Presbyterian Churches, still they want some respects from us in the end after all those unnecessary squabbles!
They like to say to every one, "For you cannot do anything against our truth, but only for the truth."
Funny but it is true.
A leader
"A leader is one who knows the way, goes the way, and shows the way" - quoted by American author John C Maxwell.
Direction
I would like to share a quotation from Jim Rohn with all of you, "You cannot change your destination overnight, but you can change your direction overnight".
Jewish Folk Song, ידיד נפש אב רחמ
I dedicated this song to Life Bible Presbyterian Church and Far Eastern Bible College..
Here's the words in Hebrew and English,
Beloved of the soul, Compassionate Father, ידיד נפש אב הרחמן
draw Your servant to your will; משוך עבדך אל רצונך
then Your servant will hurry like a hart ירוצ עבדך כמו איל
to bow before Your majesty; ישתחוה אל מול הדרך
to him Your friendship will be sweeter יערב לו ידידותיך
than the dripping of the honeycomb and any taste. מנפת צוף וכל טעם
Here's the words in Hebrew and English,
Beloved of the soul, Compassionate Father, ידיד נפש אב הרחמן
draw Your servant to your will; משוך עבדך אל רצונך
then Your servant will hurry like a hart ירוצ עבדך כמו איל
to bow before Your majesty; ישתחוה אל מול הדרך
to him Your friendship will be sweeter יערב לו ידידותיך
than the dripping of the honeycomb and any taste. מנפת צוף וכל טעם
Edifying?
You may say my blog is so unedifying, but did you ask the most crucial question, "Can Bible Presbyterian Churches edify people?"
Some Bible Presbyterian Churches do edify people in Biblical doctrines and way of worshiping and witnessing. But many Bible Presbyterian Churches do not edify people at all...Many Bible Presbyterian Churches as I know, persecuted servants of the Lord silently.
The elders and pastors of these churches let some pastors, stave to death spiritually! They sabotaged and isolated some of the old pastors until they die silently in shame. History tells again and again, they did that, they still do that until today. This is why I continue to refute Far Eastern Bible College and Bible Presbyterian Churches until today.
Many of the servants of the Lord, died of unhappiness, due to long hours of in fighting among themselves, there is no reconciliation until they died, so sad. One of the example is, an old pastor told me before he dies, he told me how sad he was, how unhappy he was, how regret he was, seeing so much hatred in Bible Presbyterian Churches, how disappointed he was to serve in Bible Presbyterian Church, to be mistreated many times by elders and pastors in Bible Presbyterian Churches circles! He sacrificed his life for Bible Presbyterian Churches, but Bible Presbyterian elders and pastors did not love him, even do not appreciate him, as one of the servant serving together in Bible Presbyterian Churches. Elder and pastor have problems in their relationship! They just do not know how to relate with one to another in love!
I prayed to God, to do something in Bible Presbyterian Churches, no matter what it's cost, it must be done urgently, before it is too late! Some old good pastors were isolated in their life time, if they can die in peace, let them die at least with a little dignity!
Lord Jahweh, our Savour and God, please hear my cry, for the evil is so great in these churches, please uphold your servants, may you grant love in Bible Presbyterian Churches. I pray in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
Some Bible Presbyterian Churches do edify people in Biblical doctrines and way of worshiping and witnessing. But many Bible Presbyterian Churches do not edify people at all...Many Bible Presbyterian Churches as I know, persecuted servants of the Lord silently.
The elders and pastors of these churches let some pastors, stave to death spiritually! They sabotaged and isolated some of the old pastors until they die silently in shame. History tells again and again, they did that, they still do that until today. This is why I continue to refute Far Eastern Bible College and Bible Presbyterian Churches until today.
Many of the servants of the Lord, died of unhappiness, due to long hours of in fighting among themselves, there is no reconciliation until they died, so sad. One of the example is, an old pastor told me before he dies, he told me how sad he was, how unhappy he was, how regret he was, seeing so much hatred in Bible Presbyterian Churches, how disappointed he was to serve in Bible Presbyterian Church, to be mistreated many times by elders and pastors in Bible Presbyterian Churches circles! He sacrificed his life for Bible Presbyterian Churches, but Bible Presbyterian elders and pastors did not love him, even do not appreciate him, as one of the servant serving together in Bible Presbyterian Churches. Elder and pastor have problems in their relationship! They just do not know how to relate with one to another in love!
I prayed to God, to do something in Bible Presbyterian Churches, no matter what it's cost, it must be done urgently, before it is too late! Some old good pastors were isolated in their life time, if they can die in peace, let them die at least with a little dignity!
Lord Jahweh, our Savour and God, please hear my cry, for the evil is so great in these churches, please uphold your servants, may you grant love in Bible Presbyterian Churches. I pray in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
Land Marks
The Old Testament says, how good it is for brothers to dwell in peace!
Verbal Plenary Preservation has broken that bond of peace!
Our Goodness is found in Jesus Christ only!
God gave Eden for Adam and Eve, this is the first landmark! Adam and Eve later had sinned against the Lord, they had been chased out from Eden, the landmark of Eden was erased for ever.
God promised Abraham a piece of land, and He gave him the promised land, this was another land mark, later Israel was divided, divided into north and south, after they disobeyed the Lord! This landmark changed and removed from time to time! Landmarks changed by man's rebellious when they sinned against the Lord.
The Israelites killed some prophets and husbandman of God! Until today the promised land is still occupied by others, and the landmarks was changed from the beginning of first kingdom until now. The landmark's border never been fixed yet even today!
There are so many Bible colleges being closed down here and there, and there are so many new Bible Colleges being set up here and there. There is up and down, do not take pride for Far Eastern Bible College in Singapore, God can rise up another one, even from the stone can comes out a praise, even a shout for the Lord!
God want us to dwell in peace, and not to take pride in a single Bible College, or a bit of idea like Verbal Plenary Preservation. (VPP)
The tongue issue had split the church once, and now, vpp again taken some of us into divisions and fights!
Why let a single man broken the bond in the Spirit, a false theologian has broken the Bible Presbyterian's unity. And he let all the church members suffered for him! This is called Selfish ambition!
Flesh and blood is this I called, I was joking in vain, how one day we become like one of those gangster, taking a stone and wanting to stone the false theologian! But stopped, stoning is against the teaching in the Bible, so do not stone any false theologian! Hurting others is a criminal act, so we have to stop stoning anyone!
Jesus even submit His Soul into the hands of God the Father, why can't we submit the Bible College to God, and dwell in peace! And put down that VPP, and do not let VPP put us down.
How sad to see brother to fight in the high court, and the Bible College taken the place of the Lord.
For sure the land marks will changes from time to time!
I am preaching a sermon called, "Brotherhood Plenary Preservation!"
Even Sister Helen and Brother Henry long to hear this sermon, and they too died for the theologian's sake!
It is better than obeying God's commandment, than sacrifice all of us for one Bible College!
I am writing without common sense, since i am in flesh, flesh and blood!
Verbal Plenary Preservation has broken that bond of peace!
Our Goodness is found in Jesus Christ only!
God gave Eden for Adam and Eve, this is the first landmark! Adam and Eve later had sinned against the Lord, they had been chased out from Eden, the landmark of Eden was erased for ever.
God promised Abraham a piece of land, and He gave him the promised land, this was another land mark, later Israel was divided, divided into north and south, after they disobeyed the Lord! This landmark changed and removed from time to time! Landmarks changed by man's rebellious when they sinned against the Lord.
The Israelites killed some prophets and husbandman of God! Until today the promised land is still occupied by others, and the landmarks was changed from the beginning of first kingdom until now. The landmark's border never been fixed yet even today!
There are so many Bible colleges being closed down here and there, and there are so many new Bible Colleges being set up here and there. There is up and down, do not take pride for Far Eastern Bible College in Singapore, God can rise up another one, even from the stone can comes out a praise, even a shout for the Lord!
God want us to dwell in peace, and not to take pride in a single Bible College, or a bit of idea like Verbal Plenary Preservation. (VPP)
The tongue issue had split the church once, and now, vpp again taken some of us into divisions and fights!
Why let a single man broken the bond in the Spirit, a false theologian has broken the Bible Presbyterian's unity. And he let all the church members suffered for him! This is called Selfish ambition!
Flesh and blood is this I called, I was joking in vain, how one day we become like one of those gangster, taking a stone and wanting to stone the false theologian! But stopped, stoning is against the teaching in the Bible, so do not stone any false theologian! Hurting others is a criminal act, so we have to stop stoning anyone!
Jesus even submit His Soul into the hands of God the Father, why can't we submit the Bible College to God, and dwell in peace! And put down that VPP, and do not let VPP put us down.
How sad to see brother to fight in the high court, and the Bible College taken the place of the Lord.
For sure the land marks will changes from time to time!
I am preaching a sermon called, "Brotherhood Plenary Preservation!"
Even Sister Helen and Brother Henry long to hear this sermon, and they too died for the theologian's sake!
It is better than obeying God's commandment, than sacrifice all of us for one Bible College!
I am writing without common sense, since i am in flesh, flesh and blood!
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