2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Revelation 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Satan is thrown from earth into the Abyss. When did this happen in mankind? This is a very important question, for those who believe "Kingdom Now." and for those who venture to far like the VPP theologians.
Revelation chapter 20 in Matthew Henry:
Here is a vision, showing by a figure the restraints laid on Satan himself. Christ, with Almighty power, will keep the devil from deceiving mankind as he has hitherto done. He never wants power and instruments to break the power of Satan. Christ shuts by his power, and seals by his authority. The church shall have a time of peace and prosperity, but all her trials are not yet over. (Rev 20:4-6).............
Christianity, in doctrine, worship, and holiness, will be made known over all the earth. By the all-powerful working of the Holy Spirit, fallen man will be new-created; and faith and holiness will as certainly prevail, as unbelief and unholiness now do.......
No sooner is Satan let loose, than he again begins deceiving the nations, and stirring them up to make war with the saints and servants of God. It would be well if the servants and ministers of Christ were as active and persevering in doing good, as his enemies in doing mischief. God will fight this last and decisive battle for his people, that the victory may be complete..........
Christ will judge the secrets of all men according to the gospel. Who shall dwell with devouring flames?.......
My dear, Verbal Plenary Preservation, a small doctrine here and there, cannot save you! But the whole Gospel is!
Look, what Paul tell us again, and again!
1 Corinthians 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
What have we believed in? A little leaven like VPP? a little bottle of wine? What did Paul stressed?
Jesus Christ is our Saviour and God! Dead and resurrected, sacrificed once and for all, once and for all!
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
23.1.17
South East Asian will be shaken
I will pray this time, South East Asian will be shaken! Until you forget about VPP, some say that is the great awakening!
Faith and VPP
Hebrews 11:1-17
Faith is believing what the Bible says! Faith is not blind faith in believing false teaching!
Abel, by faith gave better sacrifice, a living sacrifice with blood! We see that the Old Testament is a shadow, throughout the Old Testament, we knew blood has life. Blood was needed in Old Testament for the forgiveness of sin.
The better thing came for us in New Testament, the Son of God, brings us life by His blood, we have His perfect holy blood for our forgiveness of sin! We have received Jesus' blood, in His blood we receive His life! Blood has life!
Sin is giving up reading the Bible! Bible hinders us from sinning. Until we have faith in the blood of the Jesus Christ!
VPP is giving up the blood of Jesus, replaces it with a false teaching regarding the Bible doctrine!
In Ephesian chapter 6, the Word of God is regarded as the sword of the Spirit, and we know the Word of God is not every thing, it is only one part on the full armor of God! Faith is also a part of that spiritual armor!
We have found faith in Abel, Enoch, Noah and Abraham. They have faith in God! To have faith in Jesus, means we believe in His blood! We are to walk with Jesus like Enoch, we must believe in Jesus Christ. He is called Emmanuel, we must have His blood in order we can walk with Him. One day some of us are like Enoch, to be taken away without tasting the death by the rapture in the future!
We are like Noah, living in the end time generation, marrying and living. When Noah has no grandsons nor granddaughter, his family worked for God for 120 years! The world in this generation believes to lies like what his generation did, rather than believing in the Bible! The Bible is the truth given to mankind! Why we doubt the Bible is the Word of God? Why are we so stubborn?
VPP sounds very good, but it did not give any good to this future world, when VPP overlooked the power of the Blood of Jesus Christ, those VPP theologians play with Greek and Hebrew words, and they put some of us into high court to test us, they did not see that the Word of God is only a part in the whole spiritual armour given to every man after they believed in Christ's blood! Do not fear those who destroys our body, but fear God who may put our souls into the eternal hell! VPP theologians make us fighting with each other in our walk with God like Enoch! Until we cannot work together like Noah's family! How sad!
If we say we are like Abraham, he is the father of faith, we must become like him, become an example for the younger generation to trust in God! How he trusted God when God testing him!
Like Abraham lets us say:
Even though CUV is not perfect, but God is perfect!
Even though KJV is not perfect, but God is perfect!
Even though we the Chinese is not perfect, but God is perfect!
Why you cast down your soul for VPP?
Isaac is called "Abang, and Esau became "Adik" because he sold his birth right to Isaac! We better not to fall in the sin like Esau, selling our birth right. Jesus Christ is the first born, we are given birth right after we believe in Jesus Christ, we are children of God, we were advice not to sold our birth right again like Esau by trusting a man, a theologian, nor trusting Verbal Plenary Preservation is from God! How can we sold our birth right given in Christ, by trusting in Verbal Plenary Preservation, which is doubting God's Word in CUV!
We are called to preach Christ, seasons out of seasons! Telling other about the Blood of Jesus, tell them how Jesus is sacrificed once and for all, telling them how we have eternal life by the blood of Jesus Christ, telling them the Word of God is the sword of the Holy Spirit, telling them how to read the Bible rightly, telling them what actually Verbal Plenary Preservation is all about, Verbal Plenary Preservation, is only a man made premature teaching, telling them how we are to give our body as a sacrifice like what Abel did, telling them how we are to walk together like Enoch did, telling them who we are, servants to work for Jesus Christ like Noah did, telling them how we are to live by faith like Abraham did.
Why we have to waste our time in fighting over a small and minor issue like VPP? Faith and Verbal Plenary Preservation, they cannot come together, Verbal Plenary Preservation is doubting CUV is the word of God, it is hurting and putting down Christians like us the Chinese! We are to refute VPP! Verbal Plenary Preservation is a premature human faith in Bible! Why we have to walk with those theologians when they are not teaching the Bible rightly?
Lets us see Bible is better than all the treasure in the earth, how are we going to use it? This is a serious question! Lets us use the Bible in a better way! Do not waste out time in false doctrine!
Life comes by the Blood of Jesus Christ, Amen! Salvation is from Jahweh alone! Amen.
Faith is believing what the Bible says! Faith is not blind faith in believing false teaching!
Abel, by faith gave better sacrifice, a living sacrifice with blood! We see that the Old Testament is a shadow, throughout the Old Testament, we knew blood has life. Blood was needed in Old Testament for the forgiveness of sin.
The better thing came for us in New Testament, the Son of God, brings us life by His blood, we have His perfect holy blood for our forgiveness of sin! We have received Jesus' blood, in His blood we receive His life! Blood has life!
Sin is giving up reading the Bible! Bible hinders us from sinning. Until we have faith in the blood of the Jesus Christ!
VPP is giving up the blood of Jesus, replaces it with a false teaching regarding the Bible doctrine!
In Ephesian chapter 6, the Word of God is regarded as the sword of the Spirit, and we know the Word of God is not every thing, it is only one part on the full armor of God! Faith is also a part of that spiritual armor!
We have found faith in Abel, Enoch, Noah and Abraham. They have faith in God! To have faith in Jesus, means we believe in His blood! We are to walk with Jesus like Enoch, we must believe in Jesus Christ. He is called Emmanuel, we must have His blood in order we can walk with Him. One day some of us are like Enoch, to be taken away without tasting the death by the rapture in the future!
We are like Noah, living in the end time generation, marrying and living. When Noah has no grandsons nor granddaughter, his family worked for God for 120 years! The world in this generation believes to lies like what his generation did, rather than believing in the Bible! The Bible is the truth given to mankind! Why we doubt the Bible is the Word of God? Why are we so stubborn?
VPP sounds very good, but it did not give any good to this future world, when VPP overlooked the power of the Blood of Jesus Christ, those VPP theologians play with Greek and Hebrew words, and they put some of us into high court to test us, they did not see that the Word of God is only a part in the whole spiritual armour given to every man after they believed in Christ's blood! Do not fear those who destroys our body, but fear God who may put our souls into the eternal hell! VPP theologians make us fighting with each other in our walk with God like Enoch! Until we cannot work together like Noah's family! How sad!
If we say we are like Abraham, he is the father of faith, we must become like him, become an example for the younger generation to trust in God! How he trusted God when God testing him!
Like Abraham lets us say:
Even though CUV is not perfect, but God is perfect!
Even though KJV is not perfect, but God is perfect!
Even though we the Chinese is not perfect, but God is perfect!
Why you cast down your soul for VPP?
Isaac is called "Abang, and Esau became "Adik" because he sold his birth right to Isaac! We better not to fall in the sin like Esau, selling our birth right. Jesus Christ is the first born, we are given birth right after we believe in Jesus Christ, we are children of God, we were advice not to sold our birth right again like Esau by trusting a man, a theologian, nor trusting Verbal Plenary Preservation is from God! How can we sold our birth right given in Christ, by trusting in Verbal Plenary Preservation, which is doubting God's Word in CUV!
We are called to preach Christ, seasons out of seasons! Telling other about the Blood of Jesus, tell them how Jesus is sacrificed once and for all, telling them how we have eternal life by the blood of Jesus Christ, telling them the Word of God is the sword of the Holy Spirit, telling them how to read the Bible rightly, telling them what actually Verbal Plenary Preservation is all about, Verbal Plenary Preservation, is only a man made premature teaching, telling them how we are to give our body as a sacrifice like what Abel did, telling them how we are to walk together like Enoch did, telling them who we are, servants to work for Jesus Christ like Noah did, telling them how we are to live by faith like Abraham did.
Why we have to waste our time in fighting over a small and minor issue like VPP? Faith and Verbal Plenary Preservation, they cannot come together, Verbal Plenary Preservation is doubting CUV is the word of God, it is hurting and putting down Christians like us the Chinese! We are to refute VPP! Verbal Plenary Preservation is a premature human faith in Bible! Why we have to walk with those theologians when they are not teaching the Bible rightly?
Lets us see Bible is better than all the treasure in the earth, how are we going to use it? This is a serious question! Lets us use the Bible in a better way! Do not waste out time in false doctrine!
Life comes by the Blood of Jesus Christ, Amen! Salvation is from Jahweh alone! Amen.
The FEBC theologians' armor
The theologians fell half naked with under ware, with only the sword in their hands, because they threw away all other parts of the armour!!!
The leader of those theologians commanded the theologians to throw away
the helmet...bell...breastplate...shoes...shield...and he taken the only the sword, and run amok, and he shouted, "Perfect sword, perfect sword!" And he run into the church hall, and he cut the Chinese pastors with his sword, and then he cut asunder the table in remembering the Lord, and then he run wildly in the midst of the elders, and chop the cross into pieces, and he hurts some of the elders and leaders of the church, and he chop the Bible into pieces, and then he run together with other mad theologians wildly into the street, half naked only with under ware, and they shouted, "For God! For God!" People heard they shouted as, "Forgot, forgot..." All of these half naked theologians are taking the dean burgon sword, running as wild as an animal, shouting like a wolf, and they then jump into the high court, roaring like a lion! "We are the world, we are the world!" People heard they say as "We are the wild, we are the wild."
The theologian's armour is only the sword left, no more! They say they are wearing the mighty armour of God! They have this madness of attacking Chinese pastors with those swords in their hands! Many of us, are hurt and wounded by these merciless men and women! God know!
Imagine, be ware, before it is too late! Take them into the Wood bridge dungeon, and fan them with the fire without end from the pit of the hell! So that peace may prevail for a moment! What a pity thing happened to theologians, when they become mad and crazy, even doctors dance with them! Who is able to take them for us?
The leader of those theologians commanded the theologians to throw away
the helmet...bell...breastplate...shoes...shield...and he taken the only the sword, and run amok, and he shouted, "Perfect sword, perfect sword!" And he run into the church hall, and he cut the Chinese pastors with his sword, and then he cut asunder the table in remembering the Lord, and then he run wildly in the midst of the elders, and chop the cross into pieces, and he hurts some of the elders and leaders of the church, and he chop the Bible into pieces, and then he run together with other mad theologians wildly into the street, half naked only with under ware, and they shouted, "For God! For God!" People heard they shouted as, "Forgot, forgot..." All of these half naked theologians are taking the dean burgon sword, running as wild as an animal, shouting like a wolf, and they then jump into the high court, roaring like a lion! "We are the world, we are the world!" People heard they say as "We are the wild, we are the wild."
The theologian's armour is only the sword left, no more! They say they are wearing the mighty armour of God! They have this madness of attacking Chinese pastors with those swords in their hands! Many of us, are hurt and wounded by these merciless men and women! God know!
Imagine, be ware, before it is too late! Take them into the Wood bridge dungeon, and fan them with the fire without end from the pit of the hell! So that peace may prevail for a moment! What a pity thing happened to theologians, when they become mad and crazy, even doctors dance with them! Who is able to take them for us?
VPP and forgiveness
Jesus said, we must forgive our brothers for 490 times, 7 x 70 times! We must forgive without end! Then God will forgive us at the end! If we do not want to forgive, then God will not forgive us from the beginning!
If one day, Jesus came to ask these theologians who are teaching VPP, how many times they will forgive their brothers, in offending them, in reading 490 versions of Bible, other than KJV?
These theologians do not want to forgive us, even a blogger like us, in writing blogs against them! That is why they put some of us into the high court! If these theologians do not forgive their brothers in offending them in using NIV...., in preaching against Verbal Plenary Preservation...., if they do not forgive us, God will not fogive these false theologians too! How many times they wanted to forgive their brother in reading CUV? None?
These theologians say, "Hooorray! we will not forgive these Christians who are reading NKJV, NIV, CUV, they are so and so bad...because they do not accept VPP. We are at the Lord's Side! They are not, they are our enemy!"
We are reading the CUV, and ESV, we have offended these theologians, so my question is, how many times they want to forgive us? None? It seem so! My conclusion is, these theologians are not at the Lord's side, because God have not forgiven them!
They have these so called, unforgiven spirits!
If one day, Jesus came to ask these theologians who are teaching VPP, how many times they will forgive their brothers, in offending them, in reading 490 versions of Bible, other than KJV?
These theologians do not want to forgive us, even a blogger like us, in writing blogs against them! That is why they put some of us into the high court! If these theologians do not forgive their brothers in offending them in using NIV...., in preaching against Verbal Plenary Preservation...., if they do not forgive us, God will not fogive these false theologians too! How many times they wanted to forgive their brother in reading CUV? None?
These theologians say, "Hooorray! we will not forgive these Christians who are reading NKJV, NIV, CUV, they are so and so bad...because they do not accept VPP. We are at the Lord's Side! They are not, they are our enemy!"
We are reading the CUV, and ESV, we have offended these theologians, so my question is, how many times they want to forgive us? None? It seem so! My conclusion is, these theologians are not at the Lord's side, because God have not forgiven them!
They have these so called, unforgiven spirits!
A bird story 1
I am writing this to all the Chinese Christian. There was told a legendary story about a small bird among the old forks, a kind of sparrow in mainland China. This kind of bird is found throughout the villages there. It cries with a long tune, "Ti..Ti...Ti...Ti..Ti....Ti 弟...弟...弟...弟...弟....弟...弟..弟...弟...弟"
The old man in those villages told us a story about this bird. Long time ago, there was a pair of brothers, they were very kind and close to each other, one day, the younger brother went missing, the elder brother went out to search for him, but he could not find his younger brother, he was very sad, the story was told that, this elder brother turned into a small sparrow, and it flies out into the wood and villages to seek his younger brother, that is why, it cries until today, "Ti Ti Ti........弟...弟...弟...弟...弟....弟...弟..弟...弟...弟!" What a sad and touching story about a man turned into a bird looking for his brother. Whenever the villages heard its cries, they will say, "See the brother is still looking for his brother until today."
My dears, BPC, are you like that small bird, crying for your missing brothers? Have we done enough like this small creature flying among the wood and villages, loving his brother in such away?
Or are we the cruel one who take up stones and arrows to shot that bird which is crying and looking for its missing one? Aren't you are called into the gospel work, to look for those who lost the way? The lost sheep?
Why there are such an cruel one among us, who care not those lost souls among us, but they rather put some of us into high court in saying they are serving God at the same time?
Am I like Job? Writing my view in pain, and we may lose very things else, but do not let dignity fail us as a Chinese Christian! No, do not do those quarreling any longer, do not let CUV readers divide among ourselves, due to a few Bible verses which are difficult to understand by some of us, we do not need to put some one into high court...are we cry for one another lately? Do we have that love in us? Are we care enough? Why some of you cast a stone first on others?
Have you heard any one crying for his brother, no yet, "弟..弟..." Why you hurt one another, it is not enough pains and turmoils in this world? That until our theologians cast stones on some of us, because of what? Verbal Plenary Preservation!
I pray that bird will fry into your room, and may its cries awake you! Amen! I hope that day is not our judgment day! Righteous, peace and joy, where are they?
The old man in those villages told us a story about this bird. Long time ago, there was a pair of brothers, they were very kind and close to each other, one day, the younger brother went missing, the elder brother went out to search for him, but he could not find his younger brother, he was very sad, the story was told that, this elder brother turned into a small sparrow, and it flies out into the wood and villages to seek his younger brother, that is why, it cries until today, "Ti Ti Ti........弟...弟...弟...弟...弟....弟...弟..弟...弟...弟!" What a sad and touching story about a man turned into a bird looking for his brother. Whenever the villages heard its cries, they will say, "See the brother is still looking for his brother until today."
My dears, BPC, are you like that small bird, crying for your missing brothers? Have we done enough like this small creature flying among the wood and villages, loving his brother in such away?
Or are we the cruel one who take up stones and arrows to shot that bird which is crying and looking for its missing one? Aren't you are called into the gospel work, to look for those who lost the way? The lost sheep?
Why there are such an cruel one among us, who care not those lost souls among us, but they rather put some of us into high court in saying they are serving God at the same time?
Am I like Job? Writing my view in pain, and we may lose very things else, but do not let dignity fail us as a Chinese Christian! No, do not do those quarreling any longer, do not let CUV readers divide among ourselves, due to a few Bible verses which are difficult to understand by some of us, we do not need to put some one into high court...are we cry for one another lately? Do we have that love in us? Are we care enough? Why some of you cast a stone first on others?
Have you heard any one crying for his brother, no yet, "弟..弟..." Why you hurt one another, it is not enough pains and turmoils in this world? That until our theologians cast stones on some of us, because of what? Verbal Plenary Preservation!
I pray that bird will fry into your room, and may its cries awake you! Amen! I hope that day is not our judgment day! Righteous, peace and joy, where are they?
Eye teasing elder!
I had met one, such a Chinese elder in Bible Presbyterian Church, who has no respect for any Bible college, nor any Bible college students! He is such a self contend, self study man! That is good for him!
But he is like an enemy of Christ in end time! Who attacked even those good Bible Commentators like John Owen! He said he is so good, but I like to comment him to read ESV study Bible as an eye opener!
That is why the Chinese denominations cannot grow...! And so did the old pastors die, and the young pastors are sick! May God have mercy! Sin Cursed!
May God open our eyes to see His mercy today!
God is good, God can do good to us!
Do not just nag with half full mouth like me!
But he is like an enemy of Christ in end time! Who attacked even those good Bible Commentators like John Owen! He said he is so good, but I like to comment him to read ESV study Bible as an eye opener!
That is why the Chinese denominations cannot grow...! And so did the old pastors die, and the young pastors are sick! May God have mercy! Sin Cursed!
May God open our eyes to see His mercy today!
God is good, God can do good to us!
Do not just nag with half full mouth like me!
The Bird story II
Another day, a pair of sparrows flew into my house, they cried, "cheat, cheat, cheat...!" I caught them, wanting to keep them as pet. But sad to say, they did not drink and eat for some time in the cage, so they became very weak, even to fly in the cage anymore. One of the bird, I took out, and I let it slip away from my hands, it flies away slowly into the wood, another one is stronger, so I kept it longer in the cage.
After a day, the bird laid under the cage floor, dying, so I took it out from the cage, and I looked at it, seeing it will be dead soon, too late to let it fly away, I gave it to my cat as a snack, and with last cry in the mouth of my cat, the cat like to eat bird like sparrow, the bird cried at even its last breath, "cheat!" and then laid motionless in the cat's mouth! I feel bad about this! This kind of bird does not cries, "T...Ti...Ti" but they just cries like this, "Cheat!...Cheat!"
These birds sounds very familiar with those theologians, "Cheat, cheat and cheat!" This is what they can do onto us! They do not like brotherhood, but they like to cheat!
I feel bad after few days, it's partner, that bird I let go, came to look for the bird in my house. It still does not know its partner has became cat's snack!
The theologians who are cheating us, we as brother in Christ, may take them and make them as cat's snack cruelly! Because they do not care for us in the first place, but they rather cheated some us even the weak one, they had harmed and hurt the little one belonged to Christ!
When Christ return, will He come like a eagle looking for food? I do not know, but He is coming for His faithful one! May God bless those sparrow with much more food, and may God bless us much more with ESV study Bible! Amen!
Heresy
The Bible teaches us to put on these!
1. the belt of truth
2. breastplate of righteousness
3. the gospel of peace
4. the shield of faith
5. helmet of salvation
6. the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
The sword of the Spirit is only one part of the whole armor of God! And we are called to pray in the Spirit!
Imagine that those theologians who are teaching Verbal Plenary Preservation, cast away truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation......among the churches, and start to split the churches because of a Dean Burgon Oath! How great is that error!
They tell lie to us, that they are working for defending the Bible!
This is why I say Verbal Plenary Preservation is a heresy!
Even the Word of God is in the Hands of the Holy Spirit! Let the Holy Spirit lead us, we follow Him as our Leader! The Holy Spirit give us fruit of the Spirit, love, joy, peace......and even wisdom from above! Unity cannot be come a sacrifice for VPP!!
VPP is a delusion for BP! Do not let any such an erroneous man become a theologian nor an elder, they have become thorns in our flesh!
If they are not heretics, then they will not split churches!
If they are defending the Bible, then they will respect the Person of the Holy Spirit!
If they are preaching Christ, then they will unite with us!
If they are saying yes, let them say yes, if they are telling lies about the Sword of the Spirit, they are heretics!
1. the belt of truth
2. breastplate of righteousness
3. the gospel of peace
4. the shield of faith
5. helmet of salvation
6. the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God
The sword of the Spirit is only one part of the whole armor of God! And we are called to pray in the Spirit!
Imagine that those theologians who are teaching Verbal Plenary Preservation, cast away truth, righteousness, peace, faith, salvation......among the churches, and start to split the churches because of a Dean Burgon Oath! How great is that error!
They tell lie to us, that they are working for defending the Bible!
This is why I say Verbal Plenary Preservation is a heresy!
Even the Word of God is in the Hands of the Holy Spirit! Let the Holy Spirit lead us, we follow Him as our Leader! The Holy Spirit give us fruit of the Spirit, love, joy, peace......and even wisdom from above! Unity cannot be come a sacrifice for VPP!!
VPP is a delusion for BP! Do not let any such an erroneous man become a theologian nor an elder, they have become thorns in our flesh!
If they are not heretics, then they will not split churches!
If they are defending the Bible, then they will respect the Person of the Holy Spirit!
If they are preaching Christ, then they will unite with us!
If they are saying yes, let them say yes, if they are telling lies about the Sword of the Spirit, they are heretics!
Droppings
When I was young, I used to take a ride on cow cart belonged to my neighbour, he was a Sikh, we went together happily, on the way to my school. It was such a fun to take a ride on those cow carts. Slow riding and specially on a windy day, fantastic! That is one of the flash back, what my childhood was!
But these cows always drop their shits on the ways to some where! Those are smelly and watery shits, some times grey and some times green! Splashing on the road! False teachings are like these droppings, they are hot in the beginning, but later cool off, no one need them, accept for some insects feeding on these dropping over nights!
I see, we are taking a ride, on the way to heaven, with some false teachers, who are making a lot droppings here and there in the Christian circle. Verbal Plenary Preservation is one of them. I am not living in 16th Century Reformation, nor in 6th Century Europe, but I am living with the fact, we are in the end time!
We are called to fight for the truth, but the truth has been sold out in the high court, like a droppings, by some scholars, some false theologians, some false bible teachers, they put churches in jeopardise in the high court, they had put some of us into the high court, and they had sacrificed that precious unity in Christ for a piece of paper, an agreement from the 1970th.
Unity does not come to us easily! Words of God did not come to us by night. It is for this reason, to push me to write this blog to rebuke them. Who know what will happened to us! But the droppings will gone after some raining days! Soon, we will forget all about them, a few years later.
Cow carts are a luxury for my school days, because I was walking alone for many years to school, for a distance of miles, day in day out, no matter what was the weather, rains or sunshine, I had to continue my schooling by walking any way.
My dear friends, please take this VPP, and like some other false teachings, as cow droppings on the way to heaven! We cannot stop cows from dropping shit, even when they are working! There is no law to prevent the cow from dropping shits in our country!
At the end we must reach where we wanted to go, heaven, with toils and trembling! Forget about those shits!
Cow and buffelo
Cow and water buffalo are two kinds of animals. They are stubborn when they are not in good mood. It is so hard for you to push and drag them to work in the field.
Some of the Christian theologians are not going to become like lion! But they are I call as stubborn as a cow or a water buffalo, in term of spiritual sense. They are rough and hard to change!
Some theologians are like these animals. They are hard headed, in defending their doctrines and teachings, even though those doctrines and teachings are false and wrong, common sense tells us, but they still acted like cow and buffalo! Stubborn in pursuing teaching like Verbal Plenary Preservation in our churches.
Paul use illustration like "roaring lion" to describe some one who is devilish like the Satan! But I rather use "cow and water buffalo" to describe some one who is stubborn, like those theologians and their followers!
My commentary so far trying to drag those theologians up to the the tree trunk, but they fallen down some time later! It is so hard to push the back sides of those animals to move an inch, it is harder to drag them onto the top of the tree! To change a theologian's mind, it needs no man effort, but only Holy Spirit can do this changing, by God's might, not by my might!
To train cows and buffalo, we go with wipes and canes, drive them into the field, and run! Here I come, I see you cow and buffalo like to fight, for some times, that is such a heartache moment!
Some of the Christian theologians are not going to become like lion! But they are I call as stubborn as a cow or a water buffalo, in term of spiritual sense. They are rough and hard to change!
Some theologians are like these animals. They are hard headed, in defending their doctrines and teachings, even though those doctrines and teachings are false and wrong, common sense tells us, but they still acted like cow and buffalo! Stubborn in pursuing teaching like Verbal Plenary Preservation in our churches.
Paul use illustration like "roaring lion" to describe some one who is devilish like the Satan! But I rather use "cow and water buffalo" to describe some one who is stubborn, like those theologians and their followers!
My commentary so far trying to drag those theologians up to the the tree trunk, but they fallen down some time later! It is so hard to push the back sides of those animals to move an inch, it is harder to drag them onto the top of the tree! To change a theologian's mind, it needs no man effort, but only Holy Spirit can do this changing, by God's might, not by my might!
To train cows and buffalo, we go with wipes and canes, drive them into the field, and run! Here I come, I see you cow and buffalo like to fight, for some times, that is such a heartache moment!
Angels
Angels visited my family. Two years ago, an angels came to my house, to my daughter, she saw the angel, she thought the angel was her mother, because she looked alike her mother, actually my wife was sitting down stair with me. My daughter acclaimed to my wife, she was in strange feeling. "Mother! You are sitting here, a few seconds ago, I saw you in front the mirror up stair. Who was that person!" I told my wife, "Maybe she was your angel!"
A few weeks ago, when I was hurt by some people deeply, in deep despairs, I was praying in the church sanctuary that night, in the dark, I saw another angel with white cloth came down from some where, hiding his face and upper body from me, I saw the lower part of his body with white cloth, hanging in mid air. He is listening to my prayer at night. A few second later, he was not there! Vanished into thin air!
Another week, at Friday evening, I opened my door, together with my wife, at that moment, I walked out from the door, I complaint to my wife, "Where is Jesus, this Jesus seem does not care, letting people came to hurt us like this. I am very up sad. He does not care for us!" After that I walked back and seated on my chair up stair, sitting there alone watching TV, my wife was back to her wash room, suddenly, in another room next to the wash room, where there was no one, a figure of a person, with fiery orange colour, stuck out his body from the room, looking at me, this time, the upper part of his body was seen, lower part of his body was hidden behind the door, with fiery flashing orange colour, and then he hidden back into the darkness. I thought it was my wife, immediately, I went to that room to look for my wife, but she was not there, she was at another room, rather in its wash room, I was surprised, the room was empty all the while, who was that, immediate I turned to another room, in the wash room in the next room, my wife was there coming out from the wash room, I asked her about her where about just a few seconds ago. She told me all the while she was in the wash room. The room where I saw the fiery orange flashing figure, was empty all the while, I acclaimed to myself, I was perfectly sure later, miraculously saw an angels. After that I understood better, that it was because of my complaint at the door about Jesus Christ, and He had sent an angel to me, in such weak stage of my murmuring, to testify to me, "He cares for me." This thrilled my souls until today, from that day on ward, I dare not to complaint about Jesus Christ any more.
A day after this event, at Saturday after noon, another younger angel came, running across, my church, when we are holding the Sunday School, this time, I am very sure it a was small boy angel, running speedy, lightning speed across the church, I saw his short body! I made sure later, there was no one running out side of the class room during the Sunday School. it was another small angel, came to me.
I told all these to my wife, tried to explained all these events days after days to her, until now, I write in my blog as a record of those events, angels are friendly aids from God!
A few weeks ago, when I was hurt by some people deeply, in deep despairs, I was praying in the church sanctuary that night, in the dark, I saw another angel with white cloth came down from some where, hiding his face and upper body from me, I saw the lower part of his body with white cloth, hanging in mid air. He is listening to my prayer at night. A few second later, he was not there! Vanished into thin air!
Another week, at Friday evening, I opened my door, together with my wife, at that moment, I walked out from the door, I complaint to my wife, "Where is Jesus, this Jesus seem does not care, letting people came to hurt us like this. I am very up sad. He does not care for us!" After that I walked back and seated on my chair up stair, sitting there alone watching TV, my wife was back to her wash room, suddenly, in another room next to the wash room, where there was no one, a figure of a person, with fiery orange colour, stuck out his body from the room, looking at me, this time, the upper part of his body was seen, lower part of his body was hidden behind the door, with fiery flashing orange colour, and then he hidden back into the darkness. I thought it was my wife, immediately, I went to that room to look for my wife, but she was not there, she was at another room, rather in its wash room, I was surprised, the room was empty all the while, who was that, immediate I turned to another room, in the wash room in the next room, my wife was there coming out from the wash room, I asked her about her where about just a few seconds ago. She told me all the while she was in the wash room. The room where I saw the fiery orange flashing figure, was empty all the while, I acclaimed to myself, I was perfectly sure later, miraculously saw an angels. After that I understood better, that it was because of my complaint at the door about Jesus Christ, and He had sent an angel to me, in such weak stage of my murmuring, to testify to me, "He cares for me." This thrilled my souls until today, from that day on ward, I dare not to complaint about Jesus Christ any more.
A day after this event, at Saturday after noon, another younger angel came, running across, my church, when we are holding the Sunday School, this time, I am very sure it a was small boy angel, running speedy, lightning speed across the church, I saw his short body! I made sure later, there was no one running out side of the class room during the Sunday School. it was another small angel, came to me.
I told all these to my wife, tried to explained all these events days after days to her, until now, I write in my blog as a record of those events, angels are friendly aids from God!
Are you scare, afraid, in fear?
In the end time, when you meet the people in the street, you will greet them, and you will not ask them weather they have food or not? But you will ask them, weather they are in fear or not!
害怕吗？ An angel asked me!
Are you scared of something?
Are you scared if the Bible will be lost forever?
Are you afraid, people will reject KJV, but they will prefer ESV like me?
Are you in fear, because of the troubles you mede for yourself?
Are you scared for tomorrow?
Are you scared, what if you failed to be a faithful theologian?
Are you in fear, that the Lord will rebuke you today?
Are you not scared, for the day of the Lord is near! Have you forgotten? For God, one thousand years is just a day!! How can He forget His own Bible?
害怕吗？ An angel asked me!
Are you scared of something?
Are you scared if the Bible will be lost forever?
Are you afraid, people will reject KJV, but they will prefer ESV like me?
Are you in fear, because of the troubles you mede for yourself?
Are you scared for tomorrow?
Are you scared, what if you failed to be a faithful theologian?
Are you in fear, that the Lord will rebuke you today?
Are you not scared, for the day of the Lord is near! Have you forgotten? For God, one thousand years is just a day!! How can He forget His own Bible?
Acusser
Accuser! These false theologians are false accusers, they accused us Chinese brethren, in using a corrupted Bible text like CUV! And they had chased some of us away from them, and they had put some of us in the lawsuits! But they do not see that is wrong and weird!
They are the false accusers, misleading many young and immature brethren to believe in their lies! Verbal plenary preservation is a lie in the end time! Beware!
They are the false accusers, misleading many young and immature brethren to believe in their lies! Verbal plenary preservation is a lie in the end time! Beware!
A letter to the false theologians!
Dear Rev (Dr) Quek Suan Yew
Re: Your question posed to me on whether I would reconsider the doctrine of VPP.
Your reply showed some respect to me as a person saved in Jesus Christ. I appreciate your courtesy as expected from a church pastor. In view of this, I believe it is only right for me to spare some thoughts to answer some of your questions posed to me. Before answering your inquiry I would like to make a word of comment regarding your emotional state, that is, you seem to suffer from some lapses of emotional upheavals within yourself. A sisterly advice is for you to watch your inner being. Your argumentative nature speaks much of a manic mood that at times you portray yourself as a violent person in your verbal expressions that if unconsciously, God forbid, you may express it in action.
In your reply to me, you have shown yourself to be thoughtful, an already‐calmed down person much like the man whom our Lord had cast out the demonic spirits called ‘legion’(Mk 5:1‐16). Let me respond to your request of me to “reconsider the doctrine of VPP” which you further elaborated in these words: “It simply means that we hold in our hands the perfect Bible (in the original languages)”. I am sorry to give a vehement negative reply “No!” for the following reasons. I still view VPP as a heretical view of the Holy Scriptures.
1. First of all, I believe God gave His perfect word to all His Prophets and Apostles at the time of their writing in the original Hebrew and Greek languages to the extent of being inerrant, infallible and, thereby, authoritative in all aspects of life, in this life and for eternity (John 10:35; Luke 21:33; Luke 16:17; Matthew 24:35; Matthew 5:18; Luke 4:4; Matthew 4:4; Proverbs 30:5). I believe God preserved His people and the faithful scribes to copy His word (OT and NT), to transmit His word from generation to generation (Psalm 12:6, 7)1 even until today. We are privileged to have our vernacular 1 Check other versions of the Bible such as the Chinese CUV, Indonesian Akitab or German Bibel. Peter Van Kleeck’s most sensible understanding and study of Psalm 12:6‐7 concluded, “In summary ... [t]he only sure conclusion is that there is no consensus within the English Bible tradition for the interpretation of "them" in Psalm 12:7 and it was precisely this lack of agreement within the tradition which was the genius of the ambiguity of the King James Version's rendering. ... by choosing a Greek‐Latin basis the modern versions elect to overlook the Reformation's Hebrew basis for translation in Psalm 12:6‐7; and the churchly tradition in the new versions is censored by not including a translation that is broad enough to include both interpretations‐‐oppressed people and God's words" (Peter Van Kleeck, The Translational and Exegetical Rendering of Psalm 12:7 Primarily Considered in the Churchly Tradition of the 16th and 17th Centuries and Its Expression in the Reformation English Bibles: The Genius of Ambiguity, March 1993).
Also check this website http://www.kjvonly.org/doug/kutilek_why_psalm.htm for Doug Kutilek’s article on “ WHY PSALM 12:6,7 IS NOT A PROMISE OF THE INFALLIBLE PRESERVATION OF SCRIPTURE.” 2 versions of the Bible because God wants to speak to all people in their native tongues.
Hence, from the earliest times we have God’s word in Koine Greek, that is, the LXX
(Septuagint) when the OT was only recognized as authoritative in the Hebrew (in small
parts Aramaic and Syriac). At that time, the Hellenistic Jews who only understood Greek and to a lesser extent their Hebraic tongue, did not claim that the LXX with the underlying text of the Old Testament was the Perfect Word of God although Greek was the lingua franca in the ancient world. It was always the Hebrew Bible that is God breathed, the very Word of God. In the same stance, if a vernacular language of the translated Bible were to be claimed as the Perfect word of God in ancient times it would have been the Greek Septuagint with the underlying text of the Old Testament.
2. It was alleged that Alexander the Great [through Ptolemy] commissioned to have the
Hebrew Bible translated into Greek and kept in the famous library in Alexandria, Egypt. The library being destroyed by fire. But we have not read in all of history the kind of claim that you, the Faculty and Board of Directors of Far Eastern Bible College under the leadership of Rev Dr Jeffrey Khoo are making. Your claim is a stranger’s voice in the Church of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (John 10:5), a claim that Church History never knew about nor recognized. But you and your cohort are using the blunt knife of human tautological logic to mislead sincere believers of our precious faith. This blatant diversion is a preposterous perversion which in every sense of the word is a HERESY.
3. I will never become a VPP believer because of the dishonesty in Dr J Khoo’s method of argument. You, as well as Rev Dr S H Tow, have used it against Rev Tang and Rev Charles Seet as I’ve read in the papers available in the websites. As you do this, you are guilty of deceiving and misleading Bible‐believing Christians with a new and strange doctrine Dr J Khoo has concocted a devious method of reasoning. It is devised for his advantage to win the simple and naïve believers who are truly looking to God for a genuine firm faith in Jesus Christ, I would term Dr J Khoo’s factitious logic as a double‐headed asp argument for the Perfect Bible.
Let me illustrate the argument which Dr J Khoo has concocted within a period of about
one decade.
The Writings of the Prophets and Apostles (Autographs) + KJB+Underlying MT/TR Texts (Apographs) = Perfect Bible Inspiration:
3 In short, the formula is expressed in this equation:
A + B (KJV+MT/TR) = C (VPP),
given that B consists of the elements of KJB and texts of MT/TR, and the MT/TR
(Apographs) = Autographs.
In another way of putting it, the formula changes again when it is expressed in this
format: B (KJV+A) = C (VPP).
Hence, Dr J Khoo has, in fact, three formulae up his sleeves to argue in his writings and these are:
1. A + B (KJV + MT/TR) = C (VPP);
2. KJV + A = C (VPP); and
3. KJV = C (VPP);
The dishonesty and deception of Dr J Khoo’s concoction is found in “B” where he can
argue that the Word of God to be either both (KJB + MT/TR) or MT/TR, or he may infer
to only the KJB. What he really means is that the KJB is the very Word of God. But when he is cornered, he would refer to the original languages as the Word of God and he would shift to “A” declaring that it is the Autographs or Apographs as the very Word of God. By doing this he is as slippery as an eel in the mud hole. One cannot pull him out of his burrow. That’s a possible reason why he avoids public debates. That is also a reason for him to declare that the VPP is only his personal conviction. By pretending to be humble, he remains undetected, and none could catch hold of him to expose his misbehavior. His vacillation from the Autographs to the Apographs to the KJB is so obvious and so cunning that many church leaders abandon him to self‐destruction.
Dr J Khoo has concocted a term “Virtual Photocopy” of the Autographs in the Apographs
as if he had read or seen the Autographs before. He daringly declared that we have the exact words of the Prophets and Apostles in our hands. By saying this repeatedly, many B‐Pers have been deceived and led astray by his heretical teaching. He has used a theological jargon in Latin to mean “Supernatural” or “Miraculous Preservation” that happen at the time of the translation of KJV in 1611 about a century after the Reformation. But none of the KJV‐onlyists in the world would dare to postulate such a doctrine, but Rev J Khoo declared this heretical view only in 1992/3.
4. There is a latest twist to the VPP development (in late 2007) of a new formula. The Chinese Bible CUV is now included into the Perfect Bible myth of VPP in late‐2007. There is lot of internal conflicts and contradictions in this inclusion into the VPP ideology. The CUV was translated by a panel of members from many different Protestant denominations, using the English Revised Version as a basis and original manuscripts for crosschecking. Work on the CUV began in 1890 and originally, three versions of the CUV were planned—two classical Chinese versions and a vernacular Mandarin version. The CUV was completed in 1919, with one amalgamated classical Chinese translation and one vernacular Mandarin translation.
The original manuscripts referred here is the Westcott and Hort text which has a shorter version as compared to the family of TR manuscripts. In the entire corpus of VPP literature, Westcott‐Hort text has always been labeled as corrupt and, removing God’s Word equivalent to those contained in the two epistles of apostle Peter.
But how did you and Rev Dr Tow S H include CUV as the Perfect Bible with its underlying text of the original languages into VPP teaching? By doing so, VPPists have destroyed themselves. Let me illustrate why I say so by using the contents of your letter written in reply to me:
You noted my use of the NIV for 2 Timothy 1:24‐26 and showed me the superiority of KJV. You cited 5 examples in your letter for comparison to show the major differences between KJV and NIV. I am only taking 4 of them to show that the VPP ideology is self‐contradictory and has to be totally rejected immediately. It only creates confusion among church members in the Church of Jesus Christ.
a. You cited Matthew 18:11 and commented that “the salvific thrust of Christ’s message is completely lost by the omission of this verse in NIV,” but when I checked the NIV marginal notes, it states: “The Son of Man came to save what was lost.” For you to say that it is completely omitted is inaccurate and misleading. You gave me a very wrong impression of NIV as well as to other people who read your letter.
Then I checked CUV (和合本) on Matthew 18:11. It has the same omission in the main
text but in the margin it has the same verse as in the KJV.2 If you reject NIV and call it a perversion, you must also call the CUV a perversion too in the light of your comments on NIV.
b. Regarding Luke 9:55‐56, you said, “the differences (in NIV with KJV) are glaring and obviously self‐explanatory. The entire meaning is lost with all the words missing.” As for Chinese CUV, its margin stated that ancient mss maintained verse 55 but omitted 2（ 注 ： 有 古 卷 在 此 有 ： 人 子 来 ， 为 要 拯 救 失 丧 的 人 。 " ）verse 56.3 As much as VPP is critical of NIV, the same must also be applied to the CUV Bible. In accepting CUV Bible into the fold of VPP‘s definition as the Perfect Word of God, VPP must be rejected because it annihilates itself by its internal contradiction. VPP ideology has become a laughing stock because its advocates take shots at others and they boomeranged back at them.
c. The comments also applies to Acts 8:37, you commented that it “is completely
omitted in the NIV. But the KJV has it as, “And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” The key answer of Philip to the Ethiopian Eunuch’s question on what hinders him to be baptized is lost in the NIV.” NIV has not exactly omitted verse 37 but in the margin stated: “Philip said, ‘If you believe with all your heart, you may, “The eunuch answered, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.’” CUV also has the same comments in the margin about verse 37. 4 Rev Quek, you may be able to throw a smoke screen at the English reader of the Bible but you cannot bluff Chinese readers who read the CUV.
d. As for your comments on Luke 2:33 the NIV reads, “’The child’s father and mother
marveled at what was said about him,’ the KJV is true to the Greek text which shows
clearly that Joseph was not Christ’s father. The NIV by making Joseph the father of
Christ undermines the deity of Christ. “ Your comments against NIV should also be
applied to CUV because it has the same meaning as in the NIV—“’The child’s father
and mother marveled at what was said about Jesus” except for “him” in KJV but
“Jesus” in CUV .
footnotes: 人 子 来 不 是 要 灭 人 的 性 命 （ 注 ： " 性 命 " 或 作 " 灵 魂 " 。 下 同 ） ， 是 要 救 人 的 性 命 。 " 说 着 就 往 别 的 村 庄 去 了 （ 注 ： 有 古 卷 只 有 55 节 首 句 ， 56 节 末 句 ） 。
（ 注 ： 有 古 卷 在 此 有 ： 腓 利 说 ： " 你 若 是 一 心 相 信 ， 就 可 以 。 " 他 回 答
说 ： " 我 信 耶 稣 基 督 是 神 的 儿 子 。 " ）
孩 子 的 父 母 因 这 论 耶 稣 的 话 就 希 奇.
e. Rev Quek SY, if you are honest and truthful, your criticism against the NIV must be also be applied to the CUV (being recently declared by the VPP cohort as the Perfect Word of God.) It is because the NIV and CUV translations are primarily based on the Westcott‐Hort Greek Text and the Eclectic Text. Does it mean that the Westcott‐Hort Greek Text of the NT is now adopted by VPP as the Perfect Bible?
Until early 2007, Westcott‐Hort Greek Text was declared as corrupt. As declared in FEBC literature the Westcott‐Hort Greek Text was the work of two liberal Anglicans, Mary‐worshipers, members of some ghosts club and friends of evolutionists who attacked the inspiration and preservation of the Holy Scriptures.
5. You also asked me this question: “Please tell me which one is “true to the writings of the Prophets and Apostles?” . . the KJV of NIV?”
My reply: You are both confused and self‐contradicting in identifying which Greek text or version of the Bible is the very Word of God. How can you ask any person the
question when you have two sets of formulae to determine the very Word of God:
a) KJV + underlying MT/TR = The very Word of God, infallible, inerrant, 100%
inspired and 100% preserved in 2002/3;
b) CUV + underlying text of Westcott‐Hort text (English RV of 1881) = The very Word
of God, infallible, inerrant, 100% inspired and 100% preserved in late‐ 2007.
In examining the contents of the recent letter you have written to me, I feel deeply grieved and, at the same time, I pity you greatly and your cohort of VPPists in Calvary Pandan B‐P Church and those newly formed VPP churches. They have been erroneously misled by the writings and teachings of Far Eastern Bible College spearheaded by Dr J Khoo together with you and the rest of the Faculty members and Board of Directors.
I have taken great pains to demonstrate to you that those formulae you are using in reasoning and belief are self‐conflicting and confusing that inevitable lead to heresy (2 Peter 3:16). In the formation of sound theology there should never be any contradiction. As a system, Biblical doctrines must be sound and consistent and, if necessary practical, based on true historical facts that can be understood by the layperson as well as experts. They must also be easily applied in daily Christian living.
I am sorry to say that VPP ideology is a human invention that is not sustainable at the very start. I can never be a VPP believer, but on the contrary out rightly reject it as a HERESY!
Yours
Ms Tang Poh Geok, PHD
Lecturer in Law and Psychology
4 Feb 2008
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