6.7.21

John Calvin calling BPC to unite, heeding the marks guards against capricious separation

 John Calvin provides advice in disputes 


Institutes of the Christian Religion IV, i, 12

Others, again, which are the subject of controversy among the churches, do not destroy the unity of the faith; for why should it be regarded as a ground of dissension between churches, if one, without any spirit of contention or perverseness in dogmatising, hold that the soul on quitting the body flies to heaven, and another, without venturing to speak positively as to the abode, holds it for certain that it lives with the Lord?1 [1]

 

Meaning:

12. Heeding the marks guards against capricious separation

bThe pure ministry of the Word and pure mode of celebrating the sacraments are, as we say, sufficient pledge and guarantee that we may safely embrace as church any society in which both these marks exist. The principle extends to the point that we must not reject it so long as it retains them, even if it otherwise swarms with many faults.

What is more, some fault may creep into the administration of either doctrine or sacraments, but this ought not to estrange us from communion with the church. For not all the articles of true doctrine are of the same sort. Some are so necessary to know that they should be certain and unquestioned by all men as the proper principles of religion. Such are: God is one; Christ is God and the Son of God; our salvation rests in God’s mercy; and the like. Among the churches there are other articles of doctrine disputed which still do not break the unity of faith. Suppose that one church believes—short of unbridled contention and opinionated stubbornness—that souls upon leaving bodies fly to heaven; while another, not daring to define the place, is convinced nevertheless that they live to the Lord. What churches would disagree on this one point? Here are the apostle’s words: “Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, be of the same mind; and if you be differently minded in anything, God shall reveal this also to you” [Phil. 3:15]. Does this not sufficiently indicate that a difference of opinion over these nonessential matters21 should in no wise be the basis of schism among Christians? First and foremost, we should agree on all points. But since all men are somewhat beclouded with ignorance, either we must leave no church remaining, or we must condone delusion in those matters which can go unknown without harm to the sum of religion and without loss of salvation.

But here I would not support even the slightest errors with the thought of fostering them through flattery and connivance. But I say we must not thoughtlessly forsake the church because of any petty dissensions. For in it alone is kept safe and uncorrupted that doctrine in which piety stands sound and the use of the sacraments ordained by the Lord is guarded. In the meantime, if we try to correct what displeases us, we do so out of duty. Paul’s statement applies to this: “If a better revelation is made to another sitting by, let the first be silent” [1 Cor. 14:30 p.]. From this it is clear that every member of the church is charged with the responsibility of public edification according to the measure of his grace, provided he perform it decently and in order.22 That is, we are neither to renounce the communion of the church nor, remaining in it, to disturb its peace and duly ordered discipline.[2]

 

My comment:

I pray fundamentalists do not simply split the church due to minor issues!

 



1 French, “Pour donner exemple, s’il advenoit qu’une Eglise tint que les ames etant separeés des corps fussent transferés au ciel incontinent: une autre, sans oser determiner du lieu pensât semplement qu’elles vivent en Dieu; et que telle diversité fut sans contention et sans opiniatreté pourquoy se diviseroient elles d’ensemble?”—To give an example, should one church happen to hold that the soul when separated from the body is forthwith transported to heaven, and should another, without venturing to determine the place, simply think that it lives in God, and should such diversity be without contention and obstinacy, why should they be divided?

[1] John Calvin and Henry Beveridge, Institutes of the Christian Religion, vol. 3 (Edinburgh: The Calvin Translation Society, 1845), 24–26.

b edition of 1539

21 Cf. IV. ii. 1. The distinction of fundamental and nonfundamental articles of belief is woven into Calvin’s thought, though not definitively treated by him. F. Wendel remarks on the importance of this doctrine in Calvin’s championing of church unity, and cites Comm. 1 Cor. 3:11 (CR XLIX. 1354): “The fundamental doctrine, which it is nowise permissible to break, is that we cleave to Christ, for he is the only foundation [unique fondament] of the church.” The doctrines here named are introduced by the word qualia (such as) and are of course not a full enumeration of those which Calvin would hold requisite. The notion of fundamental articles formed the core of various liberal projects of union in the seventeenth century when it was advanced by Georg Calixtus, Pierre Jurieu, Samuel Werenfels, J. A. Turretin, and others. See Rouse and Neill, A History of the Ecumenical Movement, pp. 79 ff., 92 f., 107, 111.

22 On 1 Cor. 14:29–33, 40, Reformed and Puritan churches have rested their principle of participation by the members in Scriptural discussions as an expression of the priesthood of all Christians. (Calvin has inserted “better” in verse 30.) Cf. McNeill, The History and Character of Calvinism, pp. 301, 318 f.; Pannier, Institution II. 133, note a, p. 386.

[2] John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion & 2, ed. John T. McNeill, trans. Ford Lewis Battles, vol. 1, The Library of Christian Classics (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 2011), 1025–1026.

5.7.21

Augustine said separation is vain, harmful, and sacrilegious

 Institutes of the Christian Religion IV, xii, 13

“For counsels of separation are vain, sacrilegious, and pernicious, because impious and proud, and do more to disturb the weak good than to correct the wicked proud,” (August. [1]

 

Meaning:

13. Augustine requires discrimination in discipline*

cAugustine especially commends this one thing: if the contagion of sin invades the multitude, the severe mercy of a vigorous discipline is necessary. “For advice to separate,” he says, “is vain, harmful, and sacrilegious, because it becomes impious and proud; and it disturbs weak good men more than it corrects bold bad ones.”24 And what he there enjoins on others, he himself has faithfully followed. For, writing to Aurelius, bishop of Carthage, he complains that drunkenness (so severely condemned in Scripture) is raging unpunished in Africa, and he advises calling a council of bishops to provide a remedy. He then adds: “These things, in my judgment, are removed not roughly or harshly, or in any imperious manner; and more by teaching than by commanding, more by monishing than by menacing. For so we must deal with a great number of sinners. But we are to use severity toward the sins of a few.”25 Yet he does not mean that bishops should on this account condone public crimes, or remain silent because they cannot punish them more severely, as he explains afterward. But he wishes the method of correction to be so tempered that, as far as possible, it may bring health rather than death to the body. Therefore, he concludes as follows: “That precept of the apostle on the separation of evil persons must accordingly by no means be neglected when it can be applied without danger of violating peace. For he did not wish it to be done otherwise. And this principle must also be kept: bearing with one another, we should try to keep ‘the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace’ [1 Cor. 5:3–7; Eph. 4:2–3].”26[2]


My Comment:

I pray that fundamentalists have mercy in their judgment!

 


[1] John Calvin and Henry Beveridge, Institutes of the Christian Religion, vol. 3 (Edinburgh: The Calvin Translation Society, 1845), 258–259.

* following a section title indicates that the title has been supplied by the present editor.

c edition of 1543

24 Augustine, op. cit., III. ii. 14 (MPL 43. 93).

25 Augustine, Letters xxii. 1. 4. 5 (MPL 33. 92; tr. FC 12. 54 f.).

26 Augustine, Against the Letter of Parmenianus III. ii. 15, 16 (MPL 43. 94 f.).

[2] John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion & 2, ed. John T. McNeill, trans. Ford Lewis Battles, vol. 1, The Library of Christian Classics (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 2011), 1240.

Be Still My Soul


 

4.7.21

Give space and place to Holy Spirit

If you reconcile with your brothers and sisters in Christ, in BPC, accepting their differences, accept them as your beloved brethren in Christ. You united with them as one under one roof, at the same time, worship together as one under one roof.  And you forgive one another under one roof, together you pray for one another under one roof, you love each other under one roof. No more criticize your brothers who disagree with you, you will be good as gold purified 7 times. 

You will live together peacefully, no more hostile feeling between you and brothers in Christ, in BPC. You love God and love them.

Do not impose anything strongly unto those who oppose your view, give space and place for the Holy Spirit to work among us. If you are honest to say that is your personal view, not to impose rudely on anyone, you will continue to grow in peace. You will be blessed greatly. Be strong in the Lord. Love is the greatest. Be gentle to everyone who opposes you.

Give space and place to the Holy Spirit to work in you and the people living around you. Listen to those who disagreed with you. Learn from your enemy, and love your enemy, and you must love your brethren in Jesus Christ. This is your testimony for Christ on earth. May the good Lord continue to use you for His Kingdom, may His will be done.

I pray for the sake of unity, none of the BPC will attack you when you are teaching a personal view in your own place. The peace of Christ is onto you.

Distinguishing between spirits

 

1 Corinthians 12:10 

10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[1] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[1]


Hebrews 5:14 

14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.


“The spiritual gift of discernment is also known as the gift of “discernment of spirits” or “distinguishing between spirits.”  The Greek word for the gift of discernment is Diakrisis. The word describes being able to distinguish, discern, judge, or appraise a person, statement, situation, or environment.  In the New Testament, it describes the ability to distinguish between spirits as in 1 Corinthians 12:10, and to discern good and evil as in Hebrews 5:14.


I pray all the BPC to come together as one, come together to pray, praising God together, no matter what backgrounds, first the Fundamentalist BPC, then the Evangelical BPC, and then the normal BPC, and then the Charismatic BPC. Together we come to give thanks to God under one roof. We will sort things out after we come together, other small issues will be settled one by one. 

 

We are not joining hands with the harlot church. We are joining hands together with BPC. To be a good witness for Christ. 

In between the old manuscripts, God speaks

The Holy Spirit is speaking to us in between the Byzantine Texts and Alexandrian Texts, do not quench the Holy Spirit. 


The Holy Spirit is still speaking to us today through KJV, NKJV, ESV, NIV, TEV, CUV.......do not quench the Holy Spirit.


God may use a friend, a teacher, a parent, or a preacher to convey His message of truth to us. Their words may come as a warning, a blessing, or as a prophetic truth about our lives. Whether we choose to hear it or ignore it, depends on us. Do their words line up with Scripture? Will God confirm or affirm that truth in us? “The wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial, and sincere” (James 3:17, NIV).


I pray that a Greek Text can be made out from these Byzantine texts, Alexandrian Text, and other manuscripts. That will be the good one.

The Holy Spirit waited until they were united

In the early church, when all the disciples of Christ, come together, they united in prayer and praises to God, after this the Holy Spirit came unto them.

The Holy Spirit waited until they came together.
The Holy Spirit came after they come together as one, He did not come when they were separated, alone. He came when the disciples came together as one Body of Christ. God wants them to be united as one.

I personally want to share my experience, when I went into fellowship with brothers and sisters, in prayers, in praises to God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit easily controls me, easily fills my heart in such a meeting. In such a meeting, I feel the action of the Holy Spirit came unto me to speak and to serve, boldly. The Joy of the Holy Spirit will fill us after we fulfill the will of God. 

Even though the Holy Spirit may fill us when we are alone, but He is happiest, when He sees us come together.

When we come together as one, the Holy Spirit joyfully comes and fills us.


Acts 2
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost

When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.



History of BPC

First split[edit]

In 1955–1956, a fairly acrimonious split occurred in the Bible Presbyterian Church, resulting in the Bible Presbyterian Church Collingswood Synod and the Bible Presbyterian Church Columbus Synod.

While the Bible Presbyterian Church Collingswood Synod remained under the influence of McIntire, the BPC Columbus Synod, which included such men as Francis Schaeffer and Jay E. Adams would eventually move beyond its Bible Presbyterian Church heritage and eventually would take the name the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in 1961 (which is not to be confused with the current denomination of the same name, founded in 1981). In 1965, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church merged with the Reformed Presbyterian Church, General Synod, a denomination of "new light" Covenanter descent, to form the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Synod (RPCES). The RPCES would eventually merge with the Presbyterian Church in America in 1982.

Shortly before the split, the Bible Presbyterian Church had established Covenant College and Covenant Theological Seminary, both of which would be supported by the BPC Columbus Synod/Evangelical Presbyterian Church and both would follow the Evangelical Presbyterian Church into first the RPCES and then the PCA.

Second split[edit]

The remaining synod retained the name Bible Presbyterian Church. The group experienced another split in 1979; the American Presbyterian Church left the BPC over roughly the same concerns that led to the original OPC/BPC split decades earlier.

Third split[edit]

On March 28, 2008, the South Atlantic Presbytery voted by a wide margin to disassociate from the Bible Presbyterian Synod, in opposition to formal relations recently established between the Synod and the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. The presbytery took the name Faith Presbytery, Bible Presbyterian Church.

Recent history[edit]

Today the North American body has 33 congregations. Bible Presbyterians do not have synod-controlled boards for missions and education, but annually approve independent agencies for mission work, as well as colleges and seminaries.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Presbyterian_Church

Which version(s) of the bible do Presbyterians predominantly read?

When asked “What is the best version of the Bible?” One theologian replied, “The one that you will read.” I second his opinion. I believe that the Holy Spirit can speak to us through whatever particular translation we pick up to read, and I believe that it is wise, for serious study, to read from a wide variety of translations to help get the full range of subtle meanings from the original texts that cannot be adequately captured in a single translation.

3.7.21

Who build BPC?

Does it have to be this way? Is this our only option as followers of Jesus? Granted, I believe that we should do all we can always to be working hard “as though unto the Lord” but be careful to consider all aspects of God’s desire for us in this life. We see a great reminder of this in Psalm 127, which says, “Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Unless the Lord watches over the city, the watchman stays awake in vain” (v. 1).

1.7.21

Spiritual Pride

Every week, I watch many online sermons and articles posted on BPC websites and YouTube, I have to tell you what I learned from each of you.

After studying many articles from this VPP camp, listening to many of their sermons and messages online, I find one thing in common among the VPP camp, they are saying one thing very loud and clear, in Singapore, they (VPP proponents) are the faithful one, we are all unfaithful, so they separated themselves from us. They do this to shame us.

Full stop.

God is testing us

God has given us the Byzantine Text and the Alexandrian Text, and other manuscripts, it is to test us.

Whether we love God or love our brothers, our neighbor, more than these?

When we ask why God tests us or allows us to be tested, we are admitting that testing does indeed come from Him. When God tests His children, He does a valuable thing. David sought God’s testing, asking Him to examine his heart and mind and see that they were true to Him (Psalm 26:2139:23). When Abram was tested by God in the matter of sacrificing Isaac, Abram obeyed (Hebrews 11:17–19) and showed to all the world that he is the father of faith (Romans 4:16).

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