One day a woman said some nasty words in the public, she said if you meet a snake and a Indian, which one you will hit, she said you must hit the Indian, not the snake. In this she is saying that the Indian is more dangerous than the snake, this word reminded me about the false theologian who taught people false doctrine.
I asked me this question, if one day I meet a snake and a false theologian, which one you will hit first, you get what I meant. The false theologian is more dangerous than the king cobra, the venon of the false doctrine killed more than people than the snake itself.
Since, we are servant of God, I disagree with the woman, we cannot hit or strike, so we say, shu, shu, shu, chase away the snake and the false theologians. Shun the snake and false theologians, see the theologians are stronger than me.
They are happier than me. Oh God, comfort me.
THIS BLOG HAS STRONG LANGUAGE. READER DISCRETION IS ADVICED.
10.7.08
Fun quizzes for the theologians
This is my personal views about theologian. They are all human like us.
The Theologian are mostly teachers, they teach, there are many kinds of teachings, here I had a quiz for them: (The theologian should ask themselves these kinds of questions before they start to teach:)
Fun quizzes (100 %), now everyone must take this test,
1. Where their teachings come from?
a. the Holy Spirit?
b. personal, the theologian, himself,
c. the demons.
2. Where the teaching apply to?
a. universal, the whole church
b. personal, the theologian, himself,
c. the demons.
3. Who is being glorified?
a. the Holy Spirit
b. the theologian,
c. the demons
4. Where is the Holy Spirit, when the theologian is teaching:
a. in the theologian
b. beside the theologian,
c. far from the theologian.
5. Where are the demons, when the theologian is teaching:
a. in the theologian
b. beside the theologian
c. far from the theologian
6 About their teaching,
a. the teaching is finalized.
b. the teaching is opened for debates and improvement.
c. the teaching is hearsay, heresy, false, demoniac.
7. Where is the theologian, he is....
a. living in holiness
b. living in the world
c. living in hell
More questions are to be added soon, please study hard, to show you are a good servant,
please pass my weekly quizzes, before you can sit my exam, and 4 years later you can receive the cert,
Good luck.
from,
the Bible Student's desk
The Theologian are mostly teachers, they teach, there are many kinds of teachings, here I had a quiz for them: (The theologian should ask themselves these kinds of questions before they start to teach:)
Fun quizzes (100 %), now everyone must take this test,
1. Where their teachings come from?
a. the Holy Spirit?
b. personal, the theologian, himself,
c. the demons.
2. Where the teaching apply to?
a. universal, the whole church
b. personal, the theologian, himself,
c. the demons.
3. Who is being glorified?
a. the Holy Spirit
b. the theologian,
c. the demons
4. Where is the Holy Spirit, when the theologian is teaching:
a. in the theologian
b. beside the theologian,
c. far from the theologian.
5. Where are the demons, when the theologian is teaching:
a. in the theologian
b. beside the theologian
c. far from the theologian
6 About their teaching,
a. the teaching is finalized.
b. the teaching is opened for debates and improvement.
c. the teaching is hearsay, heresy, false, demoniac.
7. Where is the theologian, he is....
a. living in holiness
b. living in the world
c. living in hell
More questions are to be added soon, please study hard, to show you are a good servant,
please pass my weekly quizzes, before you can sit my exam, and 4 years later you can receive the cert,
Good luck.
from,
the Bible Student's desk
8.7.08
Theology
One day, on the way to a place, I sat on a moving train, my friend had a talk about theology. He said we must learn theology at soon at possible, and do not wait until we are old, we must learned when we are young. Good friend talk about a theologian, he said he had find the beauty of theology, he said that theology is fact is very beautiful, he explained what is the beauty of theology.
For example, The Lord’s Supper. The Lord said, “It is my body”. The good theologian explained that the body is the body of Christ. The blood is the blood of the Lord. The Good Theologian said suppose one day, the Lord came to you, and he show you a pen, and the Lord said to you, “this is my pen.” The theologian said, you must agree with the Lord, about His statement, firstly that is a pen, and secondly the pen belongs to the Lord. You must not argue with the Lord and say to the Lord, “Lord, I do not think it is a pen, it does not look like real, it is not a pen, because it does not look like a real pen, it a pencil, I think.” But you must agree with the Lord, when the Lord said, “This is my body…and this is my blood.” Even though, the holy communion does not look like the body and blood of the Lord, but the Lord pronounce them, “Yes, they are.” So we must accept them by faith. We accept the Holy Communion with gladness, and we knew the Lord had given His body and blood for us.
Spiritually, the bread and wine bring us great blessing. This is the greatest blessing God given us in a term of material, I now partake the Lord’s supper with another kind of reverence, and thank God, for the bread and wine. By faith I now, partake, these are the real body and blood of Jesus Christ. Amen. See, a Good theologian explains with simplicity, and the truth is understood, even young men also can understand this and we thank God for good theologian. Did you find any theologian so far, who can explain the beauty of theology to you, hoping you will like to study theology one day.
But some theologians are totally different from these good theologian, those theologians, bring us head knowledge like the theory of VPP, but that does not bring us any goodness, they bring us into the dead end, and people did not see the beauty of the theology. Rather people see the ugly side of the knowledge. Do you want to be a good theologian? You must look to the Lord, He is the best theologian. “He said He is the truth.” Do you believe that statement? As simple as that, a big first step into theology.
For example, The Lord’s Supper. The Lord said, “It is my body”. The good theologian explained that the body is the body of Christ. The blood is the blood of the Lord. The Good Theologian said suppose one day, the Lord came to you, and he show you a pen, and the Lord said to you, “this is my pen.” The theologian said, you must agree with the Lord, about His statement, firstly that is a pen, and secondly the pen belongs to the Lord. You must not argue with the Lord and say to the Lord, “Lord, I do not think it is a pen, it does not look like real, it is not a pen, because it does not look like a real pen, it a pencil, I think.” But you must agree with the Lord, when the Lord said, “This is my body…and this is my blood.” Even though, the holy communion does not look like the body and blood of the Lord, but the Lord pronounce them, “Yes, they are.” So we must accept them by faith. We accept the Holy Communion with gladness, and we knew the Lord had given His body and blood for us.
Spiritually, the bread and wine bring us great blessing. This is the greatest blessing God given us in a term of material, I now partake the Lord’s supper with another kind of reverence, and thank God, for the bread and wine. By faith I now, partake, these are the real body and blood of Jesus Christ. Amen. See, a Good theologian explains with simplicity, and the truth is understood, even young men also can understand this and we thank God for good theologian. Did you find any theologian so far, who can explain the beauty of theology to you, hoping you will like to study theology one day.
But some theologians are totally different from these good theologian, those theologians, bring us head knowledge like the theory of VPP, but that does not bring us any goodness, they bring us into the dead end, and people did not see the beauty of the theology. Rather people see the ugly side of the knowledge. Do you want to be a good theologian? You must look to the Lord, He is the best theologian. “He said He is the truth.” Do you believe that statement? As simple as that, a big first step into theology.
No Confidence in the Flesh
Phil 3:1-6
Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you. Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh. 3For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— 4though I myself have reasons for such confidence.
If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless.
Beware of dogs - Unclean, unholy, rapacious men. The title which the Jews usually gave the gentiles, he returns upon them. The concision - Circumcision being now ceased, the apostle will not call them the circumcision, but coins a term on purpose, taken from a Greek word used by the LXX, Leviticus 21:5, for such a cutting as God had forbidden.
Here, I met a leader of A church, he spoke with a strange tongue, a CHARISMATIC tongue speaker, even driving, he spoke in tongue, I can see he is faithful, practicing his Charismatic Movement’s teaching, when we had meeting, he will pray in a short prayer with tongue, and every day and night he is praying with tongue. he enjoyed the tongue speaking very much. Before and after sermon also he will pray a short prayer in the tongue. But he also practices circumcision at the same time, he said, “the circumcision is for the righteousness of the believer.” He also kept the Passover. He told the congregation not to eat pork because the pig is an unclean animal. And he said I am anti-Israel because I did not observe the Jewish custom and laws in the Old Testament. He said we Christians do not understand the Bible like the Jewish does. So we are anti-Christianity. At the same time, he is promoting ecumenical with the Roman Catholic. And he said that the Lord was crucified on Wednesday and not on Friday, and then he said the Lord resurrected on Saturday, not on Sunday. He usually encourages people to keep the Saturday as Sabbath day and worship on Saturday.
You can see there are a lot of different practices and doctrines in Christianity. His church leaders said,” I believe in truth, but I do not believe in absolute truth.” And he told me, “I believe in Trinity but I do not believe in one God.” So strange isn’t it. And they do not agree to worship as a church, but they wanted to worship in the home, they called this as a house church, everyone will be the priest. It is like the earlier church, Paul and Peter, they did worship at home.
I disagree with some of those strange new practices and doctrines, for me, circumcision is not needed for Christian, the Lord is our righteousness, by faith we receive the righteousness. The Holy Communion is better than the Passover. We need not keep the Passover. Pork is not so good, but it is not affecting our faith in the Lord. I am not anti-Semitic; anti-Israel, I believe they are chosen, I kept the Sunday as the Sabbath and worship on Sunday, not because of a Pagan Practice. I believe there is the absolute truth from the Bible because the Lord is the truth, we must believe in the truth. I cannot fully understand their church's doctrine, but they may have misinterpreted some truth. At some points in time, when there is loneliness, and troubles, I forget those differences, I also like to follow them to join with the Romans Catholic. Who cares? But I restraint my seat to follow them, there is a bigger doctrinal issue with the RC.
Because of these doctrinal stands, I become a dog again, barking. I had been looked down because the doctrines I observed. I am a separatist, they called me a heretic. They see me as a stranger, they dislike me because I smell like a dog, I also think like a dog, I am stink because of my doctrines and practices, we are different in many ways in Christianity. They went out to say bad report of our belief, and they see me like a stranger on the street, and they disturb our fellowship, they attack those come to our fellowship, and they kept spying and hurting our fellowship, keep on doing this from the beginning, they continue to stop people to come to our fellowship. But what I can say to them, I said to them, "brothers, please pray for us.”
The enemies had done a lot of things so that I can be chased away like a dog, their numbers are outnumbered us, they are richer 1000 times than me, they see me, “You are so poor, where is God’s blessing, how can you say God bless you.” I am poorer than them. And they are strong than me, they wanted me to disappear from the earth, daily I called on to the Lord, I have problems here, there, from outside and within, the biggest problem is me. And now, the hammer of the VPP is pounding on my head, VPP is like a knife keep on cutting my heart, something must be done, I can not bark louder, the theologians may no hear me, at least I still can write. There are difficulties in serving the Lord, but VPP brings us a big impact and hurt. We are different now compared with 10 years ago. Why? At least, I hope the theologian can see this, I hope the doctors will stop the hands in oppressing the member of the Body of Christ. We have differences in doctrine and practices, but I say again now, “Please pray for us.”
I had written many things about the VPP, I hope I can still live to see the goodness of the Lord on earth. The is very good I want. I am living like a stray dog, a dog has owner and home, so a dog is better than me, I am an outcast, an outlaw too, more than 10 years ago, I had been chased away because of defending the truth, no one will accept a creature like me. What I see the biggest problem is not you, the theologian, the doctors, the tongue speaker, but for me. The drive of the blog reach this point, I had to surrender, to the Lord, only the Lord can help me, and saved me. Amen. Please help me, I am a sinner, Lord, save me, I am weak, please strengthen me, Lord had mercy on me. I cannot help that theologian and doctors, the blog is only for a daily or memo. I hope I will recover soon. Helpless. In God, give thanks.
the fight did not end yet. I will bark, and bark, because of VPP, bark!
Paul cautions the believers to take heed of those false teachers: To write the same thing to you to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe; that is, the same things which I have already preached to you; as if he had said, "What has been presented to your ears shall be presented to your eyes: what I have spoken formerly shall now be written; to show that I am still of the same mind.’’ To me indeed is not grievous. Observe, Ministers must not think anything grievous to themselves which they have reason to believe is safe and edifying to the people. It is good for us often to hear the same truths, to revive the remembrance and strengthen the impression of things of importance. It is a wanton curiosity to desire always to hear some new thing. It is a needful caution he here gives: Beware of dogs. The prophet calls the false prophets dumb dogs (Isa. 56:10), to which the apostle here seems to refer. Dogs, for their malice against the faithful professors of the gospel of Christ, barking at them and biting them. They cried up good works in opposition to the faith of Christ; but Paul calls them evil workers: they boasted themselves to be of the circumcision; but he calls them the concision: they rent and tore the church of Christ, and cut it to pieces; or contended for an abolished rite, a mere insignificant cutting of the flesh. He describes true Christians, who are indeed the circumcision, the spiritual circumcision, the peculiar of people of God, who are in covenant with him, as the Old-Testament Israelites were: We are the circumcision, who worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
A song for a barking dog…
I am treated like a dog,
I am a dog? a chained and bitten dog,
Why, because I am barking like a dog,
So they called me, a fierce dog,
And an evil worker, go away, go away,
When I said the bad things
about the theologians and doctors,
I am chased away like a dog, like a dog,
and begging like a stray dog,
no mercy for a stray dog,
They wanted to see another dog
come and lick my blood, lick my blood,
ha..ha..ha..ha.......
A dead lion is better than me, a stray dog..
There is a lot of UNChristian happening on this side of the earth,
Judgment must come to this coast.
When I said I am wrong,
forgive me, and I said, “I am punished,”
They said to warn me,
“If you touched me, I will touch you.”
And they send good tiding to me,
“I kill you”, “I kill you.”
When I said VPP is wrong,
They said to me, “You are finished.”
the theologians said, “You cannot serve the Lord !”
Even, I said anything now,
I am punished,
Now, I am like a dog barking for justice,
But I am punished for this also.
“No, you cannot be the son of God.” the theologian proclaimed,
They said this because they are holier than thou,
“you are wicked,”
said the elders,
the theologians,
the doctors.
Finally, my brothers, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you. Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh. 3For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— 4though I myself have reasons for such confidence.
If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless.
Beware of dogs - Unclean, unholy, rapacious men. The title which the Jews usually gave the gentiles, he returns upon them. The concision - Circumcision being now ceased, the apostle will not call them the circumcision, but coins a term on purpose, taken from a Greek word used by the LXX, Leviticus 21:5, for such a cutting as God had forbidden.
Here, I met a leader of A church, he spoke with a strange tongue, a CHARISMATIC tongue speaker, even driving, he spoke in tongue, I can see he is faithful, practicing his Charismatic Movement’s teaching, when we had meeting, he will pray in a short prayer with tongue, and every day and night he is praying with tongue. he enjoyed the tongue speaking very much. Before and after sermon also he will pray a short prayer in the tongue. But he also practices circumcision at the same time, he said, “the circumcision is for the righteousness of the believer.” He also kept the Passover. He told the congregation not to eat pork because the pig is an unclean animal. And he said I am anti-Israel because I did not observe the Jewish custom and laws in the Old Testament. He said we Christians do not understand the Bible like the Jewish does. So we are anti-Christianity. At the same time, he is promoting ecumenical with the Roman Catholic. And he said that the Lord was crucified on Wednesday and not on Friday, and then he said the Lord resurrected on Saturday, not on Sunday. He usually encourages people to keep the Saturday as Sabbath day and worship on Saturday.
You can see there are a lot of different practices and doctrines in Christianity. His church leaders said,” I believe in truth, but I do not believe in absolute truth.” And he told me, “I believe in Trinity but I do not believe in one God.” So strange isn’t it. And they do not agree to worship as a church, but they wanted to worship in the home, they called this as a house church, everyone will be the priest. It is like the earlier church, Paul and Peter, they did worship at home.
I disagree with some of those strange new practices and doctrines, for me, circumcision is not needed for Christian, the Lord is our righteousness, by faith we receive the righteousness. The Holy Communion is better than the Passover. We need not keep the Passover. Pork is not so good, but it is not affecting our faith in the Lord. I am not anti-Semitic; anti-Israel, I believe they are chosen, I kept the Sunday as the Sabbath and worship on Sunday, not because of a Pagan Practice. I believe there is the absolute truth from the Bible because the Lord is the truth, we must believe in the truth. I cannot fully understand their church's doctrine, but they may have misinterpreted some truth. At some points in time, when there is loneliness, and troubles, I forget those differences, I also like to follow them to join with the Romans Catholic. Who cares? But I restraint my seat to follow them, there is a bigger doctrinal issue with the RC.
Because of these doctrinal stands, I become a dog again, barking. I had been looked down because the doctrines I observed. I am a separatist, they called me a heretic. They see me as a stranger, they dislike me because I smell like a dog, I also think like a dog, I am stink because of my doctrines and practices, we are different in many ways in Christianity. They went out to say bad report of our belief, and they see me like a stranger on the street, and they disturb our fellowship, they attack those come to our fellowship, and they kept spying and hurting our fellowship, keep on doing this from the beginning, they continue to stop people to come to our fellowship. But what I can say to them, I said to them, "brothers, please pray for us.”
The enemies had done a lot of things so that I can be chased away like a dog, their numbers are outnumbered us, they are richer 1000 times than me, they see me, “You are so poor, where is God’s blessing, how can you say God bless you.” I am poorer than them. And they are strong than me, they wanted me to disappear from the earth, daily I called on to the Lord, I have problems here, there, from outside and within, the biggest problem is me. And now, the hammer of the VPP is pounding on my head, VPP is like a knife keep on cutting my heart, something must be done, I can not bark louder, the theologians may no hear me, at least I still can write. There are difficulties in serving the Lord, but VPP brings us a big impact and hurt. We are different now compared with 10 years ago. Why? At least, I hope the theologian can see this, I hope the doctors will stop the hands in oppressing the member of the Body of Christ. We have differences in doctrine and practices, but I say again now, “Please pray for us.”
I had written many things about the VPP, I hope I can still live to see the goodness of the Lord on earth. The is very good I want. I am living like a stray dog, a dog has owner and home, so a dog is better than me, I am an outcast, an outlaw too, more than 10 years ago, I had been chased away because of defending the truth, no one will accept a creature like me. What I see the biggest problem is not you, the theologian, the doctors, the tongue speaker, but for me. The drive of the blog reach this point, I had to surrender, to the Lord, only the Lord can help me, and saved me. Amen. Please help me, I am a sinner, Lord, save me, I am weak, please strengthen me, Lord had mercy on me. I cannot help that theologian and doctors, the blog is only for a daily or memo. I hope I will recover soon. Helpless. In God, give thanks.
the fight did not end yet. I will bark, and bark, because of VPP, bark!
Paul cautions the believers to take heed of those false teachers: To write the same thing to you to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe; that is, the same things which I have already preached to you; as if he had said, "What has been presented to your ears shall be presented to your eyes: what I have spoken formerly shall now be written; to show that I am still of the same mind.’’ To me indeed is not grievous. Observe, Ministers must not think anything grievous to themselves which they have reason to believe is safe and edifying to the people. It is good for us often to hear the same truths, to revive the remembrance and strengthen the impression of things of importance. It is a wanton curiosity to desire always to hear some new thing. It is a needful caution he here gives: Beware of dogs. The prophet calls the false prophets dumb dogs (Isa. 56:10), to which the apostle here seems to refer. Dogs, for their malice against the faithful professors of the gospel of Christ, barking at them and biting them. They cried up good works in opposition to the faith of Christ; but Paul calls them evil workers: they boasted themselves to be of the circumcision; but he calls them the concision: they rent and tore the church of Christ, and cut it to pieces; or contended for an abolished rite, a mere insignificant cutting of the flesh. He describes true Christians, who are indeed the circumcision, the spiritual circumcision, the peculiar of people of God, who are in covenant with him, as the Old-Testament Israelites were: We are the circumcision, who worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
A song for a barking dog…
I am treated like a dog,
I am a dog? a chained and bitten dog,
Why, because I am barking like a dog,
So they called me, a fierce dog,
And an evil worker, go away, go away,
When I said the bad things
about the theologians and doctors,
I am chased away like a dog, like a dog,
and begging like a stray dog,
no mercy for a stray dog,
They wanted to see another dog
come and lick my blood, lick my blood,
ha..ha..ha..ha.......
A dead lion is better than me, a stray dog..
There is a lot of UNChristian happening on this side of the earth,
Judgment must come to this coast.
When I said I am wrong,
forgive me, and I said, “I am punished,”
They said to warn me,
“If you touched me, I will touch you.”
And they send good tiding to me,
“I kill you”, “I kill you.”
When I said VPP is wrong,
They said to me, “You are finished.”
the theologians said, “You cannot serve the Lord !”
Even, I said anything now,
I am punished,
Now, I am like a dog barking for justice,
But I am punished for this also.
“No, you cannot be the son of God.” the theologian proclaimed,
They said this because they are holier than thou,
“you are wicked,”
said the elders,
the theologians,
the doctors.
7.7.08
Early manuscripts
The early New Testament manuscripts can be classified into certain major families or types of text. A "text-type" is the name given to a family of texts with a common ancestor. It must be noted that many early manuscripts can be composed of several different text-types. For example, Codex Washingtonianus consists of only the four gospels, and yet, different parts are written in different text-types. Four distinctive New Testament text-types have been defined:
The Alexandrian text-type is usually considered the best and most faithful at preserving the original; it is usually brief and austere. The main examples are the Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, and Bodmer Papyri.
The Western text-type has a fondness for paraphrase and is generally the longest. Most significant is the Western version of Acts, which is 10% longer. The main examples are the Codex Bezae, Codex Claromontanus, Codex Washingtonianus, Old Latin versions (prior to the Vulgate), and quotes by Marcion, Tatian, Irenaeus, Tertullian, and Cyprian.
The Caesarean text-type is a mixture of Western and Alexandrian types and is found in the Chester Beatty Papyri and is quoted by Eusebius, Cyril of Jerusalem and Armenians.
The Byzantine text-type is the text from that is contained in a majority of the extant manuscripts and thus is often called the "Majority Text." The origin of this text is debated among scholars. Some scholars, observing that few Byzantine readings exist among early uncial manuscript witnesses, contend that the text formed late and contains conflated readings. Other scholars look to the shear number of consistent witnesses to the Byzantine textform, and the existence of readings which parallel the Byzantine textform in very early translations, as evidence that the Byzantine textform is probably the closest text to that originally penned by the New Testament authors. The Byzantine textform can be found in the Gospels of Codex Alexandrinus, later uncial texts and most minuscule texts. A variant of the Byzantine text, called the Textus Receptus, is the basis of Erasmus's printed Greek New Testament of 1516, which became the basis of the 1611 King James Version of the English New Testament.
Most modern English versions of the New Testament are based on critical reconstructions of the Greek text, such as the United Bible Societies' Greek New Testament or Nestle-Alands' Novum Testamentum Graece, which have a pronounced Alexandrian character.
圣经旁注
圣经旁注
你撇下的孤儿，我必保全他们的命，你的寡妇可以倚靠我（《耶》49∶11）圣经是神为每个人预备的话语，有些话可能在你看来是平淡的，但对另一位读者，却非常重要，而且影响极其重大。
慕迪的家是很贫穷的，他的母亲是个寡妇，独力照顾九个小孩，这担子是多麽沉重呢？邻人对她说∶“九个孩子太难负担，送几个给别人吧。”这个劝告当然很合理，可是做母亲的怎能舍得分离呢！把孩子送去给谁呢？把哪一个送人呢？再没有比这种情况更凄凉的了。
有一天，孩子们都睡了，她大哭起来。後来，她把丈夫送给她的圣经打开，她的眼睛触及一节经文“你撇下的孤儿，我必保全他们的命，你的寡妇可以倚靠我”，这是《耶利米书》49章11节的话，正适合她心中的需要，读後得到无限的安慰，她就在这节圣经旁边写下这些话∶“神啊！我知道这些孩子是你所赐的，我若尽母亲的责任，我知道你必做他们的父亲。”
神的话成了有力的鼓励，使她有勇气在百般艰苦中把孩子们抚养成人。而在她薰陶中长成的第六个孩子──慕迪，竟是神所重用的工人，举世闻名的伟大布道家。
death
Once to die,
every man will die once in a lifetime,
so, have no fear for our death,
if we fear death,
then we will have many deaths in our life.
Prepared to die once and for all for the Lord Jesus Christ,
When we died, we will be with Him, that is better,
If we stay, we will preach Christ.
The poorer I am,
I must ask for more faith, the richer I became.
every man will die once in a lifetime,
so, have no fear for our death,
if we fear death,
then we will have many deaths in our life.
Prepared to die once and for all for the Lord Jesus Christ,
When we died, we will be with Him, that is better,
If we stay, we will preach Christ.
The poorer I am,
I must ask for more faith, the richer I became.
A Statement from the Board of Elders
A Statement from the Board of Elders on Decoupling from FEBC:
On 25 January 2008 (see http://www.lifebpc.com/ourstand/stmtrelations.htm ) the Board of Elders had made a statement declaring that: "Life BP Church will request FEBC to give an undertaking that they will not promote the VPP doctrine in our premises; otherwise we will have to ask the college to vacate the premises. Please pray that the Lord will grant us an amicable resolution in the coming months."
On 28 January 2008 we requested the College to give the abovementioned undertaking by 15 February 2008 and stated: "…In the event that the College is not prepared to give us the said undertaking, we regret that the continued use of our Premises would be unedifying to our members and we would require the College to vacate and deliver vacant possession of the Premises to the Church by 30 June 2008. The parsonage will remain available to Rev (Dr) Timothy Tow, the founding Pastor."
On 12 February 2008 the College responded by claiming that the properties at 9 and 9A Gilstead Road are owned by both Life BPC and FEBC and proposing that "a mediatorial meeting be convened between Life BPC and FEBC so that an amicable solution could be arrived at to the satisfaction of both parties…"
On 1 March 2008 we wrote to reject this claim of co-ownership, and replied that the conciliatory meeting cannot take place unless the College rightfully recognizes that the Church has sole legal ownership of the premises. As the deadline for giving the written undertaking had passed, the College had clearly rejected our attempt to accommodate them. We therefore sent a letter requesting the College to vacate the premises by 30 June 2008.
On 16 June 2008, the College sent a letter in which they stated that they are intent on staying put on the premises. In that letter, they misapplied "The inexorable law of filial piety and of ancient landmarks" against the Church (see the preceding article, Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth for a proper perspective based on Scripture).
The College also made plans to continue its promotion of the VPP heresy in our Church premises. The registration form for its night classes for July to November 2008 includes the following in the course synopsis: "...The importance of studying the Westminster Standards cannot be emphasised enough. Of the utmost importance is the fundamental doctrine of the Holy Scriptures which forms the basis for every other doctrine of the Christian Faith. Learn about the Verbal Plenary Inspiration and Verbal Plenary Preservation of the Holy Scriptures of which the Westminster Confession of Faith has much to say."
In view of the above, Life B-P Church will decouple from FEBC and commence action to recover possession of the part of the Church Premises used by the College. As of 1 July 2008 FEBC ceased to have our permission to remain on or use the Church premises.
—The Board of Elders of Life B-P Church, 6th July 2008
On 25 January 2008 (see http://www.lifebpc.com/ourstand/stmtrelations.htm ) the Board of Elders had made a statement declaring that: "Life BP Church will request FEBC to give an undertaking that they will not promote the VPP doctrine in our premises; otherwise we will have to ask the college to vacate the premises. Please pray that the Lord will grant us an amicable resolution in the coming months."
On 28 January 2008 we requested the College to give the abovementioned undertaking by 15 February 2008 and stated: "…In the event that the College is not prepared to give us the said undertaking, we regret that the continued use of our Premises would be unedifying to our members and we would require the College to vacate and deliver vacant possession of the Premises to the Church by 30 June 2008. The parsonage will remain available to Rev (Dr) Timothy Tow, the founding Pastor."
On 12 February 2008 the College responded by claiming that the properties at 9 and 9A Gilstead Road are owned by both Life BPC and FEBC and proposing that "a mediatorial meeting be convened between Life BPC and FEBC so that an amicable solution could be arrived at to the satisfaction of both parties…"
On 1 March 2008 we wrote to reject this claim of co-ownership, and replied that the conciliatory meeting cannot take place unless the College rightfully recognizes that the Church has sole legal ownership of the premises. As the deadline for giving the written undertaking had passed, the College had clearly rejected our attempt to accommodate them. We therefore sent a letter requesting the College to vacate the premises by 30 June 2008.
On 16 June 2008, the College sent a letter in which they stated that they are intent on staying put on the premises. In that letter, they misapplied "The inexorable law of filial piety and of ancient landmarks" against the Church (see the preceding article, Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth for a proper perspective based on Scripture).
The College also made plans to continue its promotion of the VPP heresy in our Church premises. The registration form for its night classes for July to November 2008 includes the following in the course synopsis: "...The importance of studying the Westminster Standards cannot be emphasised enough. Of the utmost importance is the fundamental doctrine of the Holy Scriptures which forms the basis for every other doctrine of the Christian Faith. Learn about the Verbal Plenary Inspiration and Verbal Plenary Preservation of the Holy Scriptures of which the Westminster Confession of Faith has much to say."
In view of the above, Life B-P Church will decouple from FEBC and commence action to recover possession of the part of the Church Premises used by the College. As of 1 July 2008 FEBC ceased to have our permission to remain on or use the Church premises.
—The Board of Elders of Life B-P Church, 6th July 2008
6.7.08
The message
Those who said, “It was never an issue of translations but source!” they are overlooking the problem.
Why you wanted to dig up the past. What is the source? You mean the underlying TEXTS?
Presently No one knows where are the original texts are and no one sees the original TEXTS before. The Autograph is lost. What we have is the not the source. They are the copies, the mss. We have the copies.
It is not about the 2 teams of The Byzantine Texts versus the Alexandrian Texts. I personally do not agree on this kind of argument. Even, we had 2 teams of texts, there are not one single mss from either team, to be lifted up as the perfect one, all the scholars for all these years, from the earlier until today, no one dares to claim one single Bible to be the perfect Bible, not even the KJV translator themselves! No one in the past dares to claim single TR is the perfect NT. No single mss is the perfect mss.
TR also is not perfect, because it is the compilation of MSS, with various variants and differences, no 2 MSS is identically the same. So there is no such perfect TR, this is telling lies, to say the text underlying KJV is perfect.
Furthermore,
There is no perfect translation, understand this well. KJV is not perfect.
VPP is only a hypothesis. HYPOTHESIS! A belief?
What is the real argument then?
We must agree.
God only wrote one Perfect Bible. OT in Hebrew and NT is in Greek.
There are many faithful translations.
You see, no matter what language of the Bible is, the gospel message still is the same. The same Lord, no another Lord. Hebrew Bible and Greek Bible are preaching the same Lord, not 2 Lords, please understand this well. OT and NT preached the same Lord.
Is there any Apostle claiming that OT is better than NT, just because OT was written in Hebrew, since Hebrew is for a Jew, and most of the Apostles are Jew, no one claim superiority of the OT because of the language. They were opened and prepared for a new language to be used in writing the Word of God, this is the work of the Holy Spirit, another language was used, and Greek was chosen. You see here is the freedom. Not bondage of language. They were not the slave for languages, they are not under Jew or Greek, they are under the Lord, what is the message, about the Lord or not is the most important matter. What language they are going to use is the secondary matter, it not as important as the message. They did not at least quarrel for the languages used in the Bible like those theologians did. The Apostle agreed for a change, for Greek, why not?
All the Apostle agreed to use the Greek, because Greek is the language for the marketplace, so they are agreed and accepted the fact God’s Word to be written in Greek, they did not argue for the new language, even though Greek is not their mother tongue, the Hebrew is, the Apostle just have to follow God’s will, the Apostle was inspired to write in Greek, that’s all. The Apostle followed the leading of the Holy Spirit. No argument about the choices of languages. In 1 Corinthian 14, Paul allowed the Corinthians to interpret the message into understandable language, so Paul did not see that Greek is superior neither. The message is more important as Paul sees it fit. Paul did not require perfect interpretation either. Paul asked themselves to discern the message themselves.
Likewise, we should not claim the superiority of the Bible Version due to its language used, KJV is not better because it is written in Old English. It is harsh to say this. There must be a change. Why not? I can say that God may use modern English to make His message clearer to the people in the marketplace. Nothing wrong about this. Paul allowed the church to interpret, there was no such thing called perfect interpretation in the Corinthian Church, understand this as well. Paul preaches Christ with many languages, every time every moment.
How wrong it is, one to judge the Bible versions according to the wording, according to the language used, and claim superiority of the Old English over the Modern English. Asked the theologian, you see, how they answer me, I said again, No one writes any Theological Thesis or paper in Old English anymore in 2008, if he insists to do that, I will call him, this is out of theme, everyone must write his theological paper in Modern English, plain English. So that people may understand his thesis when the thesis is read publicly.
VPP is the wrong kind of mentality, wrong perception, that the old English is better than the new, and they blindly believe the Bible is perfectly preserved only in the OLD Hebrew, OLD Greek, OLD English, God can erase the OLD English, and He may want His message to be written and translated in Modern English, Modern Chinese, Modern Malay, if God wants to use understandable languages, rather than those Old English. I had made a point here. God may use Modern ENGLISH. The message still is the same. God preserved His message perfectly. Why not?
Modern English is the language of the modern world made this is the best example to illustrate the doctrine of VPP is wrong. VPP looking back for OLD English, promoting TR. VPP is wrong. But the people need Modern Bible in, understandable, daily speaking languages.
So VPP proponent is wrong in promoting OLD ENGLISH AND pursuing THE perfect UNDERLYING TEXT, there is no perfection in a language, the language changed from time to time, even the OLD GREEK, the fact is KJV is not the most faithful translation also. So why you wanted to claim its superiority over the other translation? Why wasting your time in digging the underlying TEXTS, to split the congregation, because of a linguistic problem, by asking the question like Bible is perfect or not, which Bible is superb, which is not? There is another thing else, what I want you to drive for is, is the message, preaching to the world with the TR or not, if not please keep quiet, let the freedom speak. Why not? let us preach the message with the understandable languages like most of the churches do. Let's use modern English, as simple as possible.
Without this, faith, it is impossible to please God. I believe God’s message is contained perfectly in the Bible, needed to preach to us, so that is why we must be faithful to preach the message.
May God help us and keep us faithful to Him and His perfect Word till Christ’s return. Amen.
Lastly, asked the theologian, you want the people to understand the message or not. If you want, use the language that the people understand, and do not use the unknown or the old time English, use better translation, 2 or 3 translations can be used at the same time for comparison, see that 2 or 3 prophets were allowed to speak at one occasion, they were also allowed to speak one by one, and other listen, for comparison, for discernment, there was no such perfectly prepared interpretation in Corinthians, Paul wrote in Corinthian 14:26, “Everything be constructive and edifying and for the good of all……..let the number be limited to two or at the most three…………and taking turn……let one interpret and explain…….let 2 or 3 prophets speak, while the rest pay attention, and weigh and discern what is said……if an inspired revelation comes…..let other be silent…..all for stimulation an encouragement…..Paul here allowed 2 or 3 people speak and one for interpretations, Paul did not asked them for Perfect interpretations, Paul just asked them weigh and discern the message. Correct me, if I am wrong.
ion
What is the source ? Not the Bible, not the TR, not the underlying TEXTS, not the Apostles, but God is the source… (1 Corinthian 14:33), is not the God of confusion and disorder but of peace and order.
The underlying texts are not the source of truth, the underlying text TR bring us confusions. Why the theologian still turns backward to the original language and quarrel about translations and Bible version, that is a very old story. Paul said he knew nothing except Christ, crucified, after all the debates and splits, do you see more people believe in Christ or more people confused about Christianity? The answer is, confused. So churches split, no peace and order.
Some dislike the KJV on the grounds that its English belongs to the 17th century and is archaic. God did write one perfect Bible, but it is not in old English KJV, understand this, God wanted His people to understand His Message, from Hebrew it turns to Greek, From Greek it turns to Old English, and naturally from Old English, the Bible must turn into New Modern English, listen, the message is still the same, the Gospel message is still the same. There must be the change, why not.
The Bible is not a book for man mainly to study languages, and argue about the TEXTS, and that is not the main purpose. The purpose of the Bible is to lead men to Christ, you see God had used many of the languages, Hebrew, Greek, Old English, for sure, He will also use modern English, by faith I believe I had the Bible with me, the same, message preached by Paul, I had received the message, how about you, this is the most important point the theologian missed and messed up with.
I write in plain language as simple as I can, hope you understand. Do not argue with me, about the language I used here. The message, the message is more important.
From,
me,
Balaam the Stupid
Why you wanted to dig up the past. What is the source? You mean the underlying TEXTS?
Presently No one knows where are the original texts are and no one sees the original TEXTS before. The Autograph is lost. What we have is the not the source. They are the copies, the mss. We have the copies.
It is not about the 2 teams of The Byzantine Texts versus the Alexandrian Texts. I personally do not agree on this kind of argument. Even, we had 2 teams of texts, there are not one single mss from either team, to be lifted up as the perfect one, all the scholars for all these years, from the earlier until today, no one dares to claim one single Bible to be the perfect Bible, not even the KJV translator themselves! No one in the past dares to claim single TR is the perfect NT. No single mss is the perfect mss.
TR also is not perfect, because it is the compilation of MSS, with various variants and differences, no 2 MSS is identically the same. So there is no such perfect TR, this is telling lies, to say the text underlying KJV is perfect.
Furthermore,
There is no perfect translation, understand this well. KJV is not perfect.
VPP is only a hypothesis. HYPOTHESIS! A belief?
What is the real argument then?
We must agree.
God only wrote one Perfect Bible. OT in Hebrew and NT is in Greek.
There are many faithful translations.
You see, no matter what language of the Bible is, the gospel message still is the same. The same Lord, no another Lord. Hebrew Bible and Greek Bible are preaching the same Lord, not 2 Lords, please understand this well. OT and NT preached the same Lord.
Is there any Apostle claiming that OT is better than NT, just because OT was written in Hebrew, since Hebrew is for a Jew, and most of the Apostles are Jew, no one claim superiority of the OT because of the language. They were opened and prepared for a new language to be used in writing the Word of God, this is the work of the Holy Spirit, another language was used, and Greek was chosen. You see here is the freedom. Not bondage of language. They were not the slave for languages, they are not under Jew or Greek, they are under the Lord, what is the message, about the Lord or not is the most important matter. What language they are going to use is the secondary matter, it not as important as the message. They did not at least quarrel for the languages used in the Bible like those theologians did. The Apostle agreed for a change, for Greek, why not?
All the Apostle agreed to use the Greek, because Greek is the language for the marketplace, so they are agreed and accepted the fact God’s Word to be written in Greek, they did not argue for the new language, even though Greek is not their mother tongue, the Hebrew is, the Apostle just have to follow God’s will, the Apostle was inspired to write in Greek, that’s all. The Apostle followed the leading of the Holy Spirit. No argument about the choices of languages. In 1 Corinthian 14, Paul allowed the Corinthians to interpret the message into understandable language, so Paul did not see that Greek is superior neither. The message is more important as Paul sees it fit. Paul did not require perfect interpretation either. Paul asked themselves to discern the message themselves.
Likewise, we should not claim the superiority of the Bible Version due to its language used, KJV is not better because it is written in Old English. It is harsh to say this. There must be a change. Why not? I can say that God may use modern English to make His message clearer to the people in the marketplace. Nothing wrong about this. Paul allowed the church to interpret, there was no such thing called perfect interpretation in the Corinthian Church, understand this as well. Paul preaches Christ with many languages, every time every moment.
How wrong it is, one to judge the Bible versions according to the wording, according to the language used, and claim superiority of the Old English over the Modern English. Asked the theologian, you see, how they answer me, I said again, No one writes any Theological Thesis or paper in Old English anymore in 2008, if he insists to do that, I will call him, this is out of theme, everyone must write his theological paper in Modern English, plain English. So that people may understand his thesis when the thesis is read publicly.
VPP is the wrong kind of mentality, wrong perception, that the old English is better than the new, and they blindly believe the Bible is perfectly preserved only in the OLD Hebrew, OLD Greek, OLD English, God can erase the OLD English, and He may want His message to be written and translated in Modern English, Modern Chinese, Modern Malay, if God wants to use understandable languages, rather than those Old English. I had made a point here. God may use Modern ENGLISH. The message still is the same. God preserved His message perfectly. Why not?
Modern English is the language of the modern world made this is the best example to illustrate the doctrine of VPP is wrong. VPP looking back for OLD English, promoting TR. VPP is wrong. But the people need Modern Bible in, understandable, daily speaking languages.
So VPP proponent is wrong in promoting OLD ENGLISH AND pursuing THE perfect UNDERLYING TEXT, there is no perfection in a language, the language changed from time to time, even the OLD GREEK, the fact is KJV is not the most faithful translation also. So why you wanted to claim its superiority over the other translation? Why wasting your time in digging the underlying TEXTS, to split the congregation, because of a linguistic problem, by asking the question like Bible is perfect or not, which Bible is superb, which is not? There is another thing else, what I want you to drive for is, is the message, preaching to the world with the TR or not, if not please keep quiet, let the freedom speak. Why not? let us preach the message with the understandable languages like most of the churches do. Let's use modern English, as simple as possible.
Without this, faith, it is impossible to please God. I believe God’s message is contained perfectly in the Bible, needed to preach to us, so that is why we must be faithful to preach the message.
May God help us and keep us faithful to Him and His perfect Word till Christ’s return. Amen.
Lastly, asked the theologian, you want the people to understand the message or not. If you want, use the language that the people understand, and do not use the unknown or the old time English, use better translation, 2 or 3 translations can be used at the same time for comparison, see that 2 or 3 prophets were allowed to speak at one occasion, they were also allowed to speak one by one, and other listen, for comparison, for discernment, there was no such perfectly prepared interpretation in Corinthians, Paul wrote in Corinthian 14:26, “Everything be constructive and edifying and for the good of all……..let the number be limited to two or at the most three…………and taking turn……let one interpret and explain…….let 2 or 3 prophets speak, while the rest pay attention, and weigh and discern what is said……if an inspired revelation comes…..let other be silent…..all for stimulation an encouragement…..Paul here allowed 2 or 3 people speak and one for interpretations, Paul did not asked them for Perfect interpretations, Paul just asked them weigh and discern the message. Correct me, if I am wrong.
ion
What is the source ? Not the Bible, not the TR, not the underlying TEXTS, not the Apostles, but God is the source… (1 Corinthian 14:33), is not the God of confusion and disorder but of peace and order.
The underlying texts are not the source of truth, the underlying text TR bring us confusions. Why the theologian still turns backward to the original language and quarrel about translations and Bible version, that is a very old story. Paul said he knew nothing except Christ, crucified, after all the debates and splits, do you see more people believe in Christ or more people confused about Christianity? The answer is, confused. So churches split, no peace and order.
Some dislike the KJV on the grounds that its English belongs to the 17th century and is archaic. God did write one perfect Bible, but it is not in old English KJV, understand this, God wanted His people to understand His Message, from Hebrew it turns to Greek, From Greek it turns to Old English, and naturally from Old English, the Bible must turn into New Modern English, listen, the message is still the same, the Gospel message is still the same. There must be the change, why not.
The Bible is not a book for man mainly to study languages, and argue about the TEXTS, and that is not the main purpose. The purpose of the Bible is to lead men to Christ, you see God had used many of the languages, Hebrew, Greek, Old English, for sure, He will also use modern English, by faith I believe I had the Bible with me, the same, message preached by Paul, I had received the message, how about you, this is the most important point the theologian missed and messed up with.
I write in plain language as simple as I can, hope you understand. Do not argue with me, about the language I used here. The message, the message is more important.
From,
me,
Balaam the Stupid
5.7.08
Jehovah Witness
These few years, Jehovah Witness is attacking the neighborhood.
They purposefully targeting our church members.
Another blow to our ministry.
May God preserved the brethren in Christ.
May God give the unbeliever the truth about the Saviour Jesus Christ, our God, and our Lord.
May God lead us, and protect us,
This is my most important request to Father in Heaven, in my life.
They purposefully targeting our church members.
Another blow to our ministry.
May God preserved the brethren in Christ.
May God give the unbeliever the truth about the Saviour Jesus Christ, our God, and our Lord.
May God lead us, and protect us,
This is my most important request to Father in Heaven, in my life.
5000 mss
5000 mss
Hand-copied manuscripts were prone to unintentional slips of the pen by scribes. Thus, no two manuscripts (mss) are identical. .understand this, firstly. the scribes would on occasion make variant spellings or unintentionally leave out a word. There also were other discernable types of scribal variants. There are literally thousands of New Testament manuscripts and because no two of them are exactly alike, remember this, and No one in the past, attack any of those 5000 mss, even though they are not exactly alike. No one claims perfection in any one of them, or despise any one of them. Erasmus did not claim perfect in his mss, and also in his translation, or compilation of his mss. We must accept those differences in 5000 mss. No man has the right to judge which mss is preserved, which is not. Every one of the mss is preserved.
Likewise:
No man has the right to judge which Bible is accurate and which is the preserved one. Since no two manuscripts are identical. Bibles that are different are not the same. KJV is not NIV, and NIV is not KJV, they are differences here and there, and you must accept them, both of the Bible preach Christ or not, this is the more important question. Why VPP theologian prone to attack those who read the Bibles, and put doubts in us? Let show you KJV is not perfect!
No man has the right to judge which Bible is accurate and which is the preserved one. Since no two manuscripts are identical. Bibles that are different are not the same. KJV is not NIV, and NIV is not KJV, they are differences here and there, and you must accept them, both of the Bible preach Christ or not, this is the more important question. Why VPP theologian prone to attack those who read the Bibles, and put doubts in us? Let show you KJV is not perfect!
The Errors in KJV, one of them.
Romans 8:16. In this verse, the King James Bible refers to the Holy Spirit of God as an "it." KJV Only advocates defend this degrading mistranslation as indicated: Actually, the KJV translators correctly translated the Greek word at this point. Here, the word was neuter in Greek and "it" correctly rendered the thought. People today try rather impose interpretation rather than accurate translation. Strictly speaking, the exact and literal translation is what the KING JAMES translation has, "itself." … So, "Spirit itself" is what is actually in the Greek language. … That would not be considered a translation error because that is exactly what it says. This is not "exact and literal" translation. It is FOOLISHNESS of the most ridiculous sort. The defense of the KJV here is born of desperation, not of sound linguistic understanding. It is also misleading in a technical discussion to say "’Spirit itself’ is what is actually in the Greek language." No, in the Greek language it actually says, "auto to pneuma." Anyone with even an elementary knowledge of linguistics knows that there is not a one-to-one correspondence between words in two different languages. In no case does an English word "equal" a Greek word. The correct observation is that in a given context, a particular Greek word may be correctly translated by a particular English word. So the Greek "auto" is not equal to the English "it." In some contexts, "it" would be a proper translation of "auto," but in others (such as Romans 8:16), "it" is a disastrous mistranslation. In translating a particular Greek word into English, no one should imagine that the gender of the English construction is automatically determined by the gender of the Greek. Any number of examples can be given to easily prove this beyond all contention. To say otherwise is not scholarly, it is silly. Although the Greek word for "demon" ("devil" in the KJV) is a neuter noun, in its "exact and literal" translation, the KJV calls a demon "he": Luke 4:35: "And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not." So the Holy Spirit (a neuter noun) is an "it" while a demon (a neuter noun) is a "he." Should we honestly believe this is the English Bible at its best? No, this is an error, and perhaps the most serious one in the KJV
Conclusion
While every believing student desires perfect certainly concerning every word of the New Testament, such certainty is not available. We cannot find any perfect TR. Textus Receptus needs correction, it is not perfect. Understand this as last?
While every believing student desires perfect certainly concerning every word of the New Testament, such certainty is not available. We cannot find any perfect TR. Textus Receptus needs correction, it is not perfect. Understand this as last?
Enough is enough.
Read this forum:
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3.7.08
4 Gospels
Why 4 Gospels ?
Justin Martyr (c. 155) in 1 Apology 66 wrote: "...the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels". Irenaeus was ultimately successful in declaring that the four gospels collectively, and exclusively these four, contained the truth. By reading each gospel in light of the others, Irenaeus made of John a lens through which to read Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The four gospels present different narratives, reflecting different intents on the parts of their authors. You can see the last gospel, the gospel of John, presents a very different picture of Jesus and his ministry from the Synoptics.
4 difference wordings
In the 4 Gospel, 4 difference wordings used to record the same events. Ninety-one percent of Mark's content is found in Matthew, and fifty-three percent of Mark is found in Luke. The wording in the 4 Gospels is not 100% identically same.
Synoptic problem
The synoptic problem concerns how this interrelation came to be and the nature of the interrelationship itself. Any solution must account for the similarities and differences in content, order, and wording. The VPP theologian does not explain this to you, they are ignorant about the Synoptic Problem.
The comparison for the feeding of the 5 thousand is taken for study:
Matthew 14:13-21 (King James Version)
13When Jesus heard of it, he departed thence by ship into a desert place apart: and when the people had heard thereof, they followed him on foot out of the cities.
14And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed they're sick.
15And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.
16But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
17And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
18He said, Bring them hither to me.
19And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples and the disciples to the multitude.
20And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
21And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.
Mark 6:30-44 (King James Version)
30And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
31And he said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
32And they departed into a desert place by ship privately.
33And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
34And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.
35And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
36Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
37He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworths of bread, and give them to eat?
38He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
39And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
40And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
41And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided him among them all.
42And they did all eat and were filled.
43And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
44And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
Luke 9:10-17 (King James Version)
10And the apostles, when they were returned, told him all that they had done. And he took them and went aside privately into a desert place belonging to the city called Bethsaida.
11And the people, when they knew it, followed him: and he received them, and spake unto them of the kingdom of God, and healed them that had need of healing.
12And when the day began to wear away, then came the twelve, and said unto him, Send the multitude away, that they may go into the towns and country round about, and lodge, and get victuals: for we are here in a desert place.
13But he said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they said, We have no more but five loaves and two fishes; except we should go and buy meat for all these people.
14For they were about five thousand men. And he said to his disciples, Make them sit down by fifties in a company.
15And they did so and made them all sit down.
16Then he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed them, and brake, and gave to the disciples to set before the multitude.
17And they did eat, and were all filled: and there was taken up of fragments that remained to them twelve baskets.
John 6
1After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.
2And a great multitude followed him because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
3And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.
4And the Passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh.
5When Jesus then lifted up his eyes and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?
6And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.
7Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little.
8One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him,
9There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?
10And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.
11And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.
12When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.
13Therefore they gathered them together and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.
14Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
Please made comparison about the wordings, 4 gospel writers used 4 different kinds of wording to record the same event. Nothing wrong about. The meaning is more important than just the wordings. Paul did not attack any of the Book of Gospels, or the Gospel writers because of the wording, or did he attack any other NT writer because of wording in the New Testament? Which is more important, the wording or the meaning? Asked Paul, what did he say. Tell, me. He said, "all scripture is God-breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16).
The twentieth century has seen many new translations of the Bible. More than 70 new versions have been produced since 1948. These newer versions have the advantage of being based on more extensive manuscript evidence and contain more modern language which is more easily understood by current readers. The most widely used of these newer versions is the New International Version (NIV), first released in 1978. Ask that VPP theologian, so many bible version, which is more important, wordings or the meaning?
Remember this:
For the writers of the Gospel ACCOUNTS, HE, the living Lord of the church, is the only one who is important.
I had put a smiling face at the bottom of the blog. Look!
Justin Martyr (c. 155) in 1 Apology 66 wrote: "...the apostles, in the memoirs composed by them, which are called Gospels". Irenaeus was ultimately successful in declaring that the four gospels collectively, and exclusively these four, contained the truth. By reading each gospel in light of the others, Irenaeus made of John a lens through which to read Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The four gospels present different narratives, reflecting different intents on the parts of their authors. You can see the last gospel, the gospel of John, presents a very different picture of Jesus and his ministry from the Synoptics.
4 difference wordings
In the 4 Gospel, 4 difference wordings used to record the same events. Ninety-one percent of Mark's content is found in Matthew, and fifty-three percent of Mark is found in Luke. The wording in the 4 Gospels is not 100% identically same.
Synoptic problem
The synoptic problem concerns how this interrelation came to be and the nature of the interrelationship itself. Any solution must account for the similarities and differences in content, order, and wording. The VPP theologian does not explain this to you, they are ignorant about the Synoptic Problem.
The comparison for the feeding of the 5 thousand is taken for study:
Matthew 14:13-21 (King James Version)
13When Jesus heard of it, he departed thence by ship into a desert place apart: and when the people had heard thereof, they followed him on foot out of the cities.
14And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed they're sick.
15And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.
16But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
17And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
18He said, Bring them hither to me.
19And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples and the disciples to the multitude.
20And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
21And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.
Mark 6:30-44 (King James Version)
30And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
31And he said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
32And they departed into a desert place by ship privately.
33And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
34And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.
35And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
36Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
37He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworths of bread, and give them to eat?
38He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
39And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
40And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
41And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided him among them all.
42And they did all eat and were filled.
43And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
44And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
Luke 9:10-17 (King James Version)
10And the apostles, when they were returned, told him all that they had done. And he took them and went aside privately into a desert place belonging to the city called Bethsaida.
11And the people, when they knew it, followed him: and he received them, and spake unto them of the kingdom of God, and healed them that had need of healing.
12And when the day began to wear away, then came the twelve, and said unto him, Send the multitude away, that they may go into the towns and country round about, and lodge, and get victuals: for we are here in a desert place.
13But he said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they said, We have no more but five loaves and two fishes; except we should go and buy meat for all these people.
14For they were about five thousand men. And he said to his disciples, Make them sit down by fifties in a company.
15And they did so and made them all sit down.
16Then he took the five loaves and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed them, and brake, and gave to the disciples to set before the multitude.
17And they did eat, and were all filled: and there was taken up of fragments that remained to them twelve baskets.
John 6
1After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.
2And a great multitude followed him because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
3And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.
4And the Passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh.
5When Jesus then lifted up his eyes and saw a great company come unto him, he saith unto Philip, Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?
6And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.
7Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little.
8One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him,
9There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves, and two small fishes: but what are they among so many?
10And Jesus said, Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand.
11And Jesus took the loaves; and when he had given thanks, he distributed to the disciples, and the disciples to them that were set down; and likewise of the fishes as much as they would.
12When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost.
13Therefore they gathered them together and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above unto them that had eaten.
14Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
Please made comparison about the wordings, 4 gospel writers used 4 different kinds of wording to record the same event. Nothing wrong about. The meaning is more important than just the wordings. Paul did not attack any of the Book of Gospels, or the Gospel writers because of the wording, or did he attack any other NT writer because of wording in the New Testament? Which is more important, the wording or the meaning? Asked Paul, what did he say. Tell, me. He said, "all scripture is God-breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16).
The twentieth century has seen many new translations of the Bible. More than 70 new versions have been produced since 1948. These newer versions have the advantage of being based on more extensive manuscript evidence and contain more modern language which is more easily understood by current readers. The most widely used of these newer versions is the New International Version (NIV), first released in 1978. Ask that VPP theologian, so many bible version, which is more important, wordings or the meaning?
Remember this:
For the writers of the Gospel ACCOUNTS, HE, the living Lord of the church, is the only one who is important.
I had put a smiling face at the bottom of the blog. Look!
2.7.08
5 reminders
1. In everything give thanks. Our thanksgivings.
2. Love is the greatest, greater than truth and hope. God is love. God loves us. He is Our Love. Agape.
3. Bible is a principal means for God to promote salvation in the world. Our Bible.
4. We are One in Christ. Our hope.
5. Pray for forgiveness and protections. Our prayers.
2. Love is the greatest, greater than truth and hope. God is love. God loves us. He is Our Love. Agape.
3. Bible is a principal means for God to promote salvation in the world. Our Bible.
4. We are One in Christ. Our hope.
5. Pray for forgiveness and protections. Our prayers.
30.6.08
A plea
"You have let go the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." Mark 7:8, the greatest of the commandments is to love God and then love men. So there are also traditions of men, we must know what is traditions of men.
Listen, the Lord command with power "Ephphatha, Be opened! " (Mark 7:34) He opened the ears and tongue were loosened. God gave us freedom from the traditions of men. Open your heart for the commandments of God. Let us see what He wanted the servants to be. The servant of God must follow God's commandment. And some other things Paul mentioned to young Timothy, regarding the life of a servant of God:
2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. Paul cautions Timothy against the contention, and, to prevent this (v. 23), cautions him against foolish and unlearned questions, that tend to no benefit, strifes of words. Those who advanced them, and doted upon them, thought themselves wise and learned; but Paul calls them foolish and unlearned. The mischief of these is that they gender strifes, that they breed debates and quarrels among Christians and ministers. It is very remarkable how often, and with what seriousness, the apostle cautions Timothy against disputes in religion, which surely was not without some such design as this, to show that religion consists more in believing and practicing what God requires that in subtle disputes.
2 Timothy 2:24And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Nothing worse becomes the servant of the Lord Jesus, who himself did not strive nor cry (Matt. xii. 19), but was a pattern of meekness, and mildness, and gentleness to all, than strife and contention. The servant of the Lord must be gentle to all men, and thereby show that he is himself subject to the commanding power of that holy religion which he is employed in preaching and propagating.—Apt to teach. Those are unapt to teach who are apt to strive and are fierce and forward. Ministers must be patient, bearing with evil, and in meekness instructing not only those who subject themselves but those who oppose themselves. Observe, 1. Those who oppose themselves to the truth are to be instructed; for instruction is the scripture-method of dealing with the erroneous, which is more likely to convince them of their errors than fire and faggot: he does not bid us kill their bodies, under a pretense of saving their souls. 2. Such as opposing themselves are to be instructed in meekness, for our Lord is meek and lowly (Matt. xi. 29), and this agrees well with the character of the servant of the Lord, He must not strive, but be gentle to all men, apt to teach, patient. This is the way to convey truth in its light and power and to overcome evil with good, Rom. xii. 21. 3. That which ministers must have in their eyes, in instructing those who oppose themselves, must be their recovery: If God, peradventure, will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth.
Romans 13:4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Thou hast the benefit and advantage of the government, and therefore must do what thou canst to preserve it, and nothing to disturb it." Protection draws allegiance. If we have protection from the government, we owe subjection to it; by upholding the government, we keep up our own hedge.
2 Corinthians 6:4Rather, as servants of God we commend ourselves in every way: in great endurance; in troubles, hardships and distresses; We see how much stress the apostle upon all occasions lays on fidelity in our work because much of our success depends upon that. His eye was single, and his heart upright, in all his ministrations; and his great desire was to be the servant of God, and to approve himself so. Note, Ministers of the gospel should look upon themselves as God's servants or ministers, and act in everything suitably to that character. So did the apostle, (1.) By much patience in afflictions. He was a great sufferer and met with many afflictions, was often in necessities, and wanted the conveniences, if not the necessaries, of life; in distress, being straitened on every side, hardly knowing what to do; in stripes often (ch. xi. 24); in imprisonments; in tumults raised by the Jews and Gentiles against him; in labours, not only in preaching the gospel, but in travelling from place to place for that end, and working with his hands to supply his necessities; in watching and in fastings, either voluntary or upon a religious account, or involuntary for the sake of religion: but he exercised much patience in all, v. 4, 5. Note, [1.] It is a lot of faithful ministers often to be reduced to great difficulties, and to stand in need of much patience. [2.] Those who would approve themselves to God must approve themselves faithful in trouble as well as in peace, not only in doing the work of God diligently but also in bearing the will of God patiently.
I must conclude:
Revelation 22:9But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!" So Brother and sister, all those who keep the words of this book, the Bible is to Worship God. We must keep the words of this book, not for the purpose, or to extent of quarrel, stop the quarrel. But with same heart to worship God.
Sometimes sickness forces such a change. Sometimes we reach the peak of our energy output and begin to burn out, or we are about to do so. Sometimes God, without explaining Himself, simply removes us from one place and reshapes us for another. God had two reasons for commanding Elijah to hide. First, He wanted to protect Elijah from Ahab; and second, He wanted to train him to become a man of God. When God says to us, almost out of the blue, "Hide yourself," He usually has both purposes in mind: protection and training. The one-talent servant never knew his master. He should have. He lived under his roof and shared his address. He knew his face, his name, but he never knew his master’s heart. And, as a result, he broke it. Who is this unprofitable servant? If you never use your gifts for God, you are. If you think God is a hard God, you are. For fear of doing the wrong thing for God, you’ll do nothing for God. For fear of making the wrong kingdom decision, you’ll make no kingdom decision. For fear of messing up, you’ll miss out. You will give what this servant gave and will hear what this servant heard: “You wicked and lazy servant” (v. 26). But you don’t have to. It’s not too late to seek your Father’s heart. Your God is a good God.
At last the words says: let us keep the words, and let us worship God, simply a plea for peace and unity.
29.6.08
Prayer
A good prayer to begin with:
Give us grace almighty Father, so to pray, as to deserve to be heard, to address thee with our hearts, as with our lips. Thou art everywhere present, from thee no secret can be hid. May the knowledge of this, teach us to fix our thoughts on thee, with reverence and devotion that we pray not in vain.~
May we now, and on each return of night, consider how the past day has been spent by us, what has been our prevailing thoughts, words, and actions during it, and how far we can acquit ourselves of evil.~
Have we thought irreverently of thee, have we disobeyed thy commandments, have we neglected any known duty, or willingly given pain to any human being? Incline us to ask our hearts these questions oh! God, to save us from deceiving ourselves by pride or vanity.~
Give us a thankful sense of blessings in which we live, of the many comforts of our lot; that we may not deserve to lose them by discontent or indifference.~
Hear us almighty God, for his sake who has redeemed us, and taught us, thus to pray, Amen.~
Amen...
The VPP issue in BP has caused us much pain and labor, and it is distracting prayer life, then this indirectly has effect family and ministry, and the evil workers from the VPP camp came to disturb living, these are more or less like the over zealous "zealots," the doctors even want to break our rice bowl and wanted to see us killed and commit suicide, everything will work out good. Hopefully, we can go through these obstacles with the hands of the Lord, help us, Lord Jesus.
This pastors has directly insult and broken the bond and unity in his church, he is going to chase out his Chinese pastors from the Chinese congregation, because he does not agreed to accept the doctrine of VPP. And see with yourself, he can preach at another time about fainting and praying, marvelous, typical following one wrong footstep of the theologian, pity!
The pastor preached, "As believers we must never give up on God. God never gave up on us and He never will! Trust in Him no matter how tired and discouraged we might be with people. Never be despondent with our God. He cares and will always hear our prayers. Trials and tribulations will abound in the last days as we battle for the Bible! Every means will be used by the Evil One to thwart God’s children from doing God’s will and God’s work! Remain stedfast and unmoved by these attacks. Defending God’s Word and Christ’s Name and God’s people is a passionate endeavour. The moment we stop and allow ourselves to be moved we have lost and have fainted. The only way to keep ourselves from losing heart is to keep praying with persistence and fierce determination because we know that the eternal destiny of the souls of men, women and children are at stake. They need God’s people to pray always and not faint.
Give us grace almighty Father, so to pray, as to deserve to be heard, to address thee with our hearts, as with our lips. Thou art everywhere present, from thee no secret can be hid. May the knowledge of this, teach us to fix our thoughts on thee, with reverence and devotion that we pray not in vain.~
May we now, and on each return of night, consider how the past day has been spent by us, what has been our prevailing thoughts, words, and actions during it, and how far we can acquit ourselves of evil.~
Have we thought irreverently of thee, have we disobeyed thy commandments, have we neglected any known duty, or willingly given pain to any human being? Incline us to ask our hearts these questions oh! God, to save us from deceiving ourselves by pride or vanity.~
Give us a thankful sense of blessings in which we live, of the many comforts of our lot; that we may not deserve to lose them by discontent or indifference.~
Hear us almighty God, for his sake who has redeemed us, and taught us, thus to pray, Amen.~
Amen...
The VPP issue in BP has caused us much pain and labor, and it is distracting prayer life, then this indirectly has effect family and ministry, and the evil workers from the VPP camp came to disturb living, these are more or less like the over zealous "zealots," the doctors even want to break our rice bowl and wanted to see us killed and commit suicide, everything will work out good. Hopefully, we can go through these obstacles with the hands of the Lord, help us, Lord Jesus.
This pastors has directly insult and broken the bond and unity in his church, he is going to chase out his Chinese pastors from the Chinese congregation, because he does not agreed to accept the doctrine of VPP. And see with yourself, he can preach at another time about fainting and praying, marvelous, typical following one wrong footstep of the theologian, pity!
The pastor preached, "As believers we must never give up on God. God never gave up on us and He never will! Trust in Him no matter how tired and discouraged we might be with people. Never be despondent with our God. He cares and will always hear our prayers. Trials and tribulations will abound in the last days as we battle for the Bible! Every means will be used by the Evil One to thwart God’s children from doing God’s will and God’s work! Remain stedfast and unmoved by these attacks. Defending God’s Word and Christ’s Name and God’s people is a passionate endeavour. The moment we stop and allow ourselves to be moved we have lost and have fainted. The only way to keep ourselves from losing heart is to keep praying with persistence and fierce determination because we know that the eternal destiny of the souls of men, women and children are at stake. They need God’s people to pray always and not faint.
Will you preserve in your prayers as you see the day of the LORD fast approaching? Jesus warns in Luke 18:8 , “I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?” Jesus has promised that He will avenge in His time.
The problem is not Christ’s faithfulness but ours! Let us always pray and not faint!
May God raise up men and women of faith in Calvary Pandan who will pray always and never faint!"
Here is a another BP pastor who is attacking those who does not like VPP, see how he preached in another time, he forgot he has broken the unity in BP; he preached:
“The house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:15). The duty of the church is to believe, declare and defend every word in the Bible, which is the truth of God.
Here is a another BP pastor who is attacking those who does not like VPP, see how he preached in another time, he forgot he has broken the unity in BP; he preached:
“The house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Timothy 3:15). The duty of the church is to believe, declare and defend every word in the Bible, which is the truth of God.
Never let our congregation waste a single moment or a single drop of its sweat to disprove the words of the Bible, which we have received and have been our blessing. Let us spend every moment and our every drop of sweat and blood to understand, to defend and to declare every letter and every word of the Bible.
We should not seek the false form of spirituality that supports critics of God's Word by a specious logic that neglects simple and plain truth of His Word. Be child-like in believing everything that the Lord has uttered in His Word. If we wear the intellectual hat and sit with the Bible with a critical spirit, we are nothing more than a congregation of Pharisees. We will be taken in by our own conceit.
I have written this article to call you, at this time, to the great duty of standing fast at your post for the truth of God, and to the equally great duty of endeavouring, wherever you are, to maintain that we believe that God's Word is true to every letter. Be ye not carried about by every wind of doctrine. Give not heed to every schismatic who would lead you aside. Hold fast to the oracles of the Most High. You know what you have been taught, and whereunto you have been called; and you know the foundation whereupon you have been built up. May God give us courage to stand up for what is right, even to believe His Word to be perfect to every letter.
So The member in BP start to talk, here are some of them:
So The member in BP start to talk, here are some of them:
1. The School of Prophets had a fray, (You seems to be from this school too.)
Where just a few men had a say. (If you don’t agree with what they say, then why did you in it stay?)
But when another disagreed, (Are you in the frame? how do you know what is disagreed?)
They jumped upon him for his deed. (May we know what he really did?)
2. Colin received the can of worms, (And that’s because he is!)
It spread in no uncertain terms, (Yes, the unfaithful church indeed!)
To Jack, and Charles, and all the rest, (And these few really did their best,)
Who then were all put to the test. (Hide the truth and make a mess!)
3. They found in Calvin and in Mark, (Ah, are you one of these now playing the harp?)
Colleagues with whom they could pakat. (Trying to show how you can also make the mark?)
Who wrote a paper in defense, (Oh yea? So what’s the defense?)
To be inspected by the lens – (Please let us also see if they stand a chance)
4. Of Khoo and Quek the deadly duo, (Thank God cos they did speak the truth!)
Who always shout and make a show, (If possible to expose you too!)
Of their devotion to the Word, (If not because they love the LORD)
But in doing so they looked absurd. (They probably will be just like you too!)
5. With Das and Carol at their side, (Careful, my friend. Don’t take us for a ride!)
They threatened those who do abide, (You seems to be hurt in the pride?)
To the Reformers’ view of “pure,” (Reformers are human too,)
These they hoped to convert and cure. (there’s limit in their truth!)
6. To their view of the perfect text, (That is GOD’s WORD at Max!)
But with this lore we’re very vexed, (Or perhaps it is you who is very vexed?)
The Bible is the Word of God, (Aye, and Amen to that indeed!)
Already perfect Lamp and Rod. (And do I see in you a nod?)
7. This epic saga continues, (Because this is nothing new!)
With people and their diff’rent views, (Man’s view is man’s view, GOD’s WORD has no views!)
Can there not be plurality, (Are you bargaining?)
In Reformed Christianity? (Or are you contemplating?)
8. No, there can’t be plurality, (Yes! for others. No, for ONE!)
With those in the extremity (Else I won’t know what HE wants!)
Of fundamentalism, they (Fundamentalism is just a name)
Insist only upon their way. (Many hid behind and use it in vain!)
9. To them, the rest have bastardised, (Are there any better otherwise?)
The version that they’ve idolised. (Please don’t take us another ride!)
Because the rest refuse to hold, (What version would you hold?)
The doctrine on which they’ve been sold. (Westcott and Hort’s has many holes!)
10. But through the research it’s been found, (What research is that please?)
Their view is really quite unsound. (By GOD’s WORD or man’s greed?)
The people whom they like to quote, (Man again? Oh! Please! Please!)
Are really not all in their boat! (Please keep that to GOD’s creed!)
11. Verse seven of the famous Psalm, (Psalms? Okay, let me see.)
Is often twisted in their palm, (I think I really disagree!)
To talk about the Lamp and Rod, (isn’t it the WORD of GOD?)
When really it’s the Man of God. (WORD of GOD is the SON of GOD!)
12.And when these truths have been made known,(If GOD can’t perfectly HIS WORD keep)
Their perfect doctrine has been blown. (How can man to trust HIS deeds?)
But rather than admit their fault, (Neither O' Martin Luther did!)
They write their lies and do assault – (He nailed his ninety-nine thesis!)
13. The ones who dared to challenge them, (They silenced him in Church to speak,)
These, they have labeled with a name, (And all the faithful pastors, the wicked kicked!)
“Neo-Fundamentalists” and more, (The wicked posed faithful, but did more in their greed!)
To vex them and to make them sore. (Unable to face the truth, lies works just like this poetry did!)
14. They say that they will even name, (The stones will cry indeed!)
To friends and students without shame, (Ashamed of GOD’s WORD preserved, they make the old pastor’s head to split!)
These enemies whom now they hate, (They tell the lies and fixed the date,)
Their church to warn lest it’s too late. (Charts drawn, and did their tricks!)
15. The session of the Church was split, (Yes, for many feared man and him to please!)
And members in despair complete. (Confused or just couldn’t care a bit?)
Will leaders fully understand? (What is there so hard to understand?)
Else labor vain on Beulah Land! (GOD says with faith like mustard seed surely can!)
16. We prayed that God would intervene, (Your god likely is not Abraham’s)
In this whole mess that went extreme. (Smoke screens and confusions with these men!)
Perhaps the Lord’s will was to purge, (Look! They who kicked their father is in praying hands!)
Make us into a purer Church. (May GOD bless you! Amen? Amen?)
17. We’d seen the hand of God in this (We’d seen the wicked men in his deeds)
Strange situation-gone-amiss. (Hoping nothing is done amiss.)
He caused our trust in Him to be (Telling the members what their “truth” is)
Implicit with tenacity.(The old pastor has left his sheep!)
18. The building of the Beulah Tow’r (You mean that old sign board across the street?)
Was cut short in its tracks for sure, (“FEBC Student’s Hostel” is!)
When the authorities came by, (Has it not been taken down to continue in their bottomless greed?)
They said we could not build so high. (They now have raised the price to five million high!)
19. Appeal after appeal was made, (Building a house for whom to sleep?)
When it was resolutely said, (Student’s family now their heads no place to place,)
The current house upon the land, (Everything is now by grace.)
Be well-maintained and left to stand. (Students running from place to place!)
20. Then God again revealed his plan, (Man’s plan now “becomes” GOD’s plan?)
Disposed the proud design of man. (Showcase what the wicked can.)
It’s so ironic, you’ll be shocked, (Oh! Indeed! Very shocked I am!)
It shows that God cannot be mocked. (GOD’s righteous judgment is surely at hand!)
21. When Jeffrey Khoo and Quek Suan Yew, (Charles, Colin, Calvin, and Mark too!)
With Das their faithful henchman too, (Raised their banners too! Didn’t they?)
Were planning on a trip to take, (Wrote to many, telling half truths)
Dean Burgon’s Annual Conf’rence make. (And make the church confused!)
22. Their heroes whom they’ve made to be, (These men from Burgon fears to take!)
Rejected them despite their plea, (Rejected them despite their plea.)
Attend the meeting they could not, (Attend the meeting they did not,)
As full immersion was the cost. (Man’s support is not needed for this cause!)
23. Despite the document of peace, (Peter and all were told to hold their peace)
Which all the Elders had released, (Songs in dungeon, they're released)
That both beliefs were quite okay, (If knowing the truth and doeth it not be sin,)
Yet Jeff insisted on his way. (Will you keep quiet and hope to be clean?)
24. He wrote about it in a book, (GOD wrote it in HIS BOOK!)
The peaceful statement he forsook. (Life also we should forsook!)
When to desist it was agreed, (Double quick if his hands can do!)
He wrote this work in double speed. (To refute the lies that the wicked do!)
25. The session of the church perplexed (So did the church of Rome!)
All wondering what he’s doing next? (Nail the wicked serpent’s head!)
Already called up by the law (Oh! Yes! Because in ACM they were not allowed to speak!)
We wonder why we ne’er foresaw. (All mics were switched off! Didn't you see?)
26. We love the college, it is true, (You loved the college, never heard off!)
It’s trained a pastor, not a few. (If you do, then all these writings can’t be true!)
But now a cannon loose become (Telling lies and half truth, is not of love!)
The damage is already done. (Love must overflow with truth!)
27. The leaders of the church implored (If the church entrusted to you from GOD’s hand is falling. What would you do?)
The principal to call a board, (Call the board!)
The faculty he must instruct, (Faculty must meet!)
To show forth well their good conduct. (Tell the truth! Warn the uninformed of YOU!)
28. But many Elders liked to say (What are things they trying to hide?)
Freedom of speech was there to stay. (Stuffed our mouth and block other’s minds!)
But these of course were sycophants, (Sound like you’re suffocating.)
Their fawning out of dead conscience. (These elders have little conscience.)
29. These who do worship Reverend Tow, (Pastor is loved because GOD he loves! He’s the founder of BP, missions planter and faithful teacher.)
Have really stooped to levels low. (Nothing so low as you or the wicked did. They rob the old man and calls him names!)
Instead of helping him to see, (It is he that GOD used to help many of us to see! And now it is you I don't want see.)
Each cries, “A father he’s to me!” (Ahem! Only Elder TC Lim cries, “A father he’s to me!” and again may I ask, where is he?)
30. But Christ had plainly said before, (Yes, verily!)
“No man call you your father, for (Amen!)
Your Father is in heaven one.” (Amen! And Amen!)
Hence it’s against Commandment One! (Please kindly tell that to Elder TC Lim!)
31. But blind these leaders were to this, (Do you mean Elder TC Lim?)
Because of their great lawlessness. (And him again as named?)
They went to gossip to their friends, (They make their lies, "truth" and published as damage control!)
And influence to ungodly ends. (Ladies and gentleman can’t you see?)
32. So what’s the use of holding to (Are you taking us for a ride again?)
A doctrine that you do not “do”? (Doctrine is more than do, and may I asked what did Jeffrey and the lot not do?)
The “Perfect Bible” is okay, (If “Perfect Bible” is okay, then why call it heresy?)
But please, for goodness’ sakes, OBEY! (And who is it that is not obeying now?)
33. Instead of calming people’s hearts, (If a man’s heart is calmed by false assurance, then he is a fool!)
They stroked their passions off the charts. (But if that passion is stirred by the Holy Spirit, it will definitely shoot off charts!)
It’s really no surprise – the strife (Hmm! If man be perfect, who needs GOD?)
Came from a Dean who scolds his wife. (Is there not a cause? Have you not scolded your spouse before? O! Perfect man?)
34. Perhaps it started farther back, (So, now you starts to dig and gossip! Openly!)
With Founding Pastor’s vicious smack. (Shame your old pastor in your speech!)
Which he had planted on his late (Is this how your god teaches you?)
Wife – adding judgment to his fate. (hisssssssssssssssss……………………..!)
35. For when he got another one, (And “death do us part”!)
With whom he had a girl and son. (Is not children GOD’s blessing?)
With whom he had a girl and son. (Is not children GOD’s blessing?)
The girl went on to be abused, (And there you go again!)
While Ivy everyone amused. (As like your spouse never sin! O! righteous gossip!)
36. But judgment did not stop right there: (So you want to speak his shame! As if you are rid of blame.)
The crippled son was dealt unfair, (As if you’re that righteous. Are you exercising judgment on GOD’s behalf?)
And made to sleep inside a hut, (Did you tell of the crippled son, difficult to take care he is?)
No light he saw for he was shut – (The room he stayed in has to be removed, because LIFE church speak ill of him?)
37. Inside this shack for half his life, (Defend her I won’t cos non VPP, but students oft were sent to clean up his room.)
And tortured by the second wife, (Please comment not if you know little. Please keep it to VPP.)
He was the offspring of the first,
And victim of two’s vengeful thirst.
38. And when this was to be made known
They tried to get him in a home.
But he had no identity!
Resort to under table fee?
They tried to get him in a home.
But he had no identity!
Resort to under table fee?
39. But this outcome need not have been,
But Tow Siew Ai had not foreseen.
The flat she had bequeathed to him,
Was stolen through half-brother’s scheme.
But Tow Siew Ai had not foreseen.
The flat she had bequeathed to him,
Was stolen through half-brother’s scheme.
40. More schemes there are to this whole tale,
Which caused a gust, no wait, a gale
Of great torrential waves of lies,
Deceit, dishonesty, and guise.
Which caused a gust, no wait, a gale
Of great torrential waves of lies,
Deceit, dishonesty, and guise.
41. The “Perfect Bible” was a joke (I thought you said, The “Perfect Bible” is okay?)
Concocted by a cunning bloke. (Oh! Is it? Where? By the way, do you know Charles says, “To lie, it is Okay.”?)
But when so few supported it, (GOD’s crowd is growing, please look at the evening classes!)
He changed his goalposts not a bit. (Why should we?)
42. The phantom text was now played down, (We have no phantom text! The text is that which underlies the KJV!)
A second notion took he to town. (There’s no need for such an act!)
He now pled that ‘discrepancies’ (From young, our PERFECT GOD we believe, a PERFECT BIBLE gave us HE indeed!)
Weren’t errors, but apparent, please! (Are you trying to say that GOD double talks and can’t be bothered if we question the integrity of HIS WORD? O Please!)
43. This novel concept has a name, (This is not a new doctrine! It’s an un-catalogued common sense! Are you stupid or what?)
(Coining new terms must be a game) (If GOD says something and later say, “got meh?” then you better panic!)
The new doctrine’s called V.P.P.
It’s Verbal and it’s Plenary.
44. It teaches us that every word
Has always been through time preserved.
Though at its heart it may be true, (Ooi! Take us for a ride again? Bus fare is going up you know?)
Has always been through time preserved.
Though at its heart it may be true, (Ooi! Take us for a ride again? Bus fare is going up you know?)
It’s only held by just a few.
45. There’s one big hindrance to it now, (May I know what bus is this? Around the world in 62 stanzas? Round trip?)
To solve it fast they don’t know how.
And that is in Psalm 22,
In verse 16 you’ll find the clue.
To solve it fast they don’t know how.
And that is in Psalm 22,
In verse 16 you’ll find the clue.
46. “They pierced my hands and feet” we read. (Please don’t show that you know what the Author’s intent is. Are you really that close?)
And so defeat they must concede! (Another ride again? VPP is talking about the TEXT underlies KJV, you’re talking about translation. That doesn’t really fit!)
For in the Hebrew it’s not the same,
So should they not their cause disclaim?
47. Instead of “pierced” it’s written “lion,”
It seems that there’d been some re-writin’.
And fingers point toward the Jews
Who really had a lot to lose.
It seems that there’d been some re-writin’.
And fingers point toward the Jews
Who really had a lot to lose.
48. For if the Christ was crucified,
The Holy Scriptures, verified!
Since this to them real bad news spells,
They changed the “pierced” to something else. (Oooi! Translation again! Please remember VPP is the text underlies!)
The Holy Scriptures, verified!
Since this to them real bad news spells,
They changed the “pierced” to something else. (Oooi! Translation again! Please remember VPP is the text underlies!)
49. For years we Christians this have said,
That “lion” it’s not, but “pierced” instead.
Though in the texts that are extant,
It’s always “lion,” hundred percent.
That “lion” it’s not, but “pierced” instead.
Though in the texts that are extant,
It’s always “lion,” hundred percent.
50. So while they might find proof in time,
To clear the scribes of this great crime,
There’s still something that’s not quite right,
And that’s their spirit – they love to fight. (And you love to lie! And you also love to take us for rides!)
To clear the scribes of this great crime,
There’s still something that’s not quite right,
And that’s their spirit – they love to fight. (And you love to lie! And you also love to take us for rides!)
51. When a whim becomes the balance,
To weigh out “tares” from its adherents,
When one becomes this schismatic,
The Word him simply calls – heretic. (And so from "The Perfect Bible is Okay" to "a joke" and now a heresy! How interesting?)
To weigh out “tares” from its adherents,
When one becomes this schismatic,
The Word him simply calls – heretic. (And so from "The Perfect Bible is Okay" to "a joke" and now a heresy! How interesting?)
52. It’s no surprise that this was seen, (Oh! And you forgot to inform many things that were amiss!)
Or rather heard, with all the screams, (Tickets were numbered, mics were turned down to zero, questions are not allowed, etc, etc!)
Or rather heard, with all the screams, (Tickets were numbered, mics were turned down to zero, questions are not allowed, etc, etc!)
They shouted in the ACM,
(They sounded quite like Eminem.) (Er, what is this “eminem” thing? Rock band with vulgarity. How come you know? Do you listen to ROCK music?)
53. Those who fell prey to V.P.P., (Thank GOD, they did!)
Established True Life BPC! (To continue in LIFE BPC, I believe will soon cause the spiritual to fall as well!)
With Founding Pastor as their guide, (Thank GOD, though not perfect a man he truly fears the LORD!)
Controlled by Jeffrey at his side. (Arh then? Do you think having people like you will make a better choice?)
54. And in each message True Life preaches (Of course, because man often takes GOD’s WORD for granted)
The speaker girds up high his breeches. (Every reminder is GREAT for those who did evil, and to you also who look as an innocent storyteller.)
On Sunday, Friday, Vigil Service,
They never fail to teach on this.
55. “The Perfect Bible’s saving faith!”
That’s what Pastor Tow the Father saith. (Father? Do you mean Elder TC Lim again? But is he in Pastor Tow’s church?)
That’s what Pastor Tow the Father saith. (Father? Do you mean Elder TC Lim again? But is he in Pastor Tow’s church?)
And so when such a thing’s appended,
Free offer of the Gospel’s ended. (Ooi! Please don’t do summary for a church you don’t attend! And buries people with half truths.)
56. The poison did not stop right there, (Do you mean your song?)
The other churches, did not spare. (Many churches like Life Church dare.)
The other churches, did not spare. (Many churches like Life Church dare.)
The church which stands near Jurong West, (Calvary Jurong! O yes! They also tried the same thing and Truth BPC is formed!)
Was put severely to the test. (Jurong copied what happened in Life BPC and tried to improve on it. Right?)
57. The ones who on this doctrine stand, (Ooi! Is this a new gossip?)
With Carol and her lisping man, (Please keep ye to VPP!)
Raised the support to split the church.
And left it flound’ring in the lurch.
58. Or so they thought when they did leave
That in the middle the church would cleave.
But actually she did quite well,
As gone from her was Waite’s bad smell.
That in the middle the church would cleave.
But actually she did quite well,
As gone from her was Waite’s bad smell.
59. And so we see that this great shame,
Came from a man who wanted fame,
To be Faith’s champion of the day
He led the church to disarray.
Came from a man who wanted fame,
To be Faith’s champion of the day
He led the church to disarray.
60. More stanzas of this song could write, (More lies from you wish to write?)
More people would its words indict.
And though to truth it would attest,
Not all who read this would be blessed.
More people would its words indict.
And though to truth it would attest,
Not all who read this would be blessed.
61. And though this poem’s meant to be sung,
A strain it will be on the tongue.
Just like that horrid song before,
About some homosexual lore. (You’re really sick to the Core!)
A strain it will be on the tongue.
Just like that horrid song before,
About some homosexual lore. (You’re really sick to the Core!)
62. And so this author won’t insist,
That this song’s sung in worship’s midst.
That really would be horrible, (Hey! So soon to take leave? Your song is only half complete!)
Plus won’t it be deplorable? (Let me help you how it starts, so your story is more complete!)
That this song’s sung in worship’s midst.
That really would be horrible, (Hey! So soon to take leave? Your song is only half complete!)
Plus won’t it be deplorable? (Let me help you how it starts, so your story is more complete!)
63. (It all started with one little horror,)
(Two lecturers say the Scripture has errors!)
(The old principal who is also the old faithful pastor.)
(FEBC cannot teach such error.)
(Two lecturers say the Scripture has errors!)
(The old principal who is also the old faithful pastor.)
(FEBC cannot teach such error.)
64. (But the two can’t hold the shame,)
(So they spoke to their church elders.)
(These up-to-no-good leaders starts spreadin their gospel.)
(Say to redeem the Church from the old pastor’s “error”!)
65. (What a twist to change the scene!)
(From crooks and now they look as SAINTS!)
(They forced the old pastor with stress and terrors!)
(So much so he almost went insane!)
66. (They hid the truth and got rid the pastor!)
(With their sheep all so blind.)
(Singing their crooked tunes divine!)
(Their wicked spirits now is bind.)
67. (The old pastor so nice and gracious,)
(9A Gilstead, theirs to keep!)
(10 Gilstead, Beulah they wants too and soon FEBC to rid.)
(So they hope to find their ugly sins, buried under their dirty 6 feet!)
(So they spoke to their church elders.)
(These up-to-no-good leaders starts spreadin their gospel.)
(Say to redeem the Church from the old pastor’s “error”!)
65. (What a twist to change the scene!)
(From crooks and now they look as SAINTS!)
(They forced the old pastor with stress and terrors!)
(So much so he almost went insane!)
66. (They hid the truth and got rid the pastor!)
(With their sheep all so blind.)
(Singing their crooked tunes divine!)
(Their wicked spirits now is bind.)
67. (The old pastor so nice and gracious,)
(9A Gilstead, theirs to keep!)
(10 Gilstead, Beulah they wants too and soon FEBC to rid.)
(So they hope to find their ugly sins, buried under their dirty 6 feet!)
SOLA What?
And the theologians had many of his murmurs and complaints posted in this website: Check these few belows:
From:
Brutus Balan Subramaniam
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