You said you wanted to pray for the neighbor and the country. But you hate the fellow Christian who does not pray in tongue! You looked down to them! You looked down to them who are poor in material and spirit!
You said you wanted to pray for the nations, you wanted to be the light of this world, you are liars! Your prayers are detestable things. You are praying and fasting to make people feel good for a time, after that you started to punished those who are poor and weak in the churches. You called yourselves the leaders of the nations!
You bishops said you wanted to unite the churches, but after the prayer and fasting you started to bring punishments to those who are not agreed with you! You are the rich fool young men!
You elders said you are kind and going charity work, but in the dark you breed many terrorists and murders to attack the pastors, you asked the pastors to leave the churches, since you do not like him!
You deacons said you are good and so good, so that you pray like the pharisee in the temple!
Money blinded you eyes! Lusts make you a killer! Hates make you a murder!
Repent! Before you pray and fast!
We pray for unity within the Bible-Presbyterian Church. Calling some of their fundamentalists to repentance. We reprimand Far Eastern Bible College (FEBC) lecturers for teaching heresy and living in lust and pride! ++THIS BLOG HAS STRONG LANGUAGE. Reader discretion is advised++
3.8.09
I am going to pray for your victory, so that the corrupted kingdom will be ended as soon as possible, we must act in steps, arranged them.
You are going to to patrol our country seven times, and the seventh times, the strong walls of the corruptions will collapsed! The people will shout for joy!
Heavenly Father, may my God bless us with a good government. Where the people will lived in peace and there are prosperity for every hardworking man. And the racism and terrorist "must must" be stopped. Let make the country "strong strong!" I pray in the Name of Jesus Christ, Isa Almaseh, Amen.
You are going to to patrol our country seven times, and the seventh times, the strong walls of the corruptions will collapsed! The people will shout for joy!
Heavenly Father, may my God bless us with a good government. Where the people will lived in peace and there are prosperity for every hardworking man. And the racism and terrorist "must must" be stopped. Let make the country "strong strong!" I pray in the Name of Jesus Christ, Isa Almaseh, Amen.
29.7.09
What I needed now?
(1) Patient
Proverbs 16:32
(NIV)
Better a patient man than a warrior, a man who controls his temper than one who takes a city.
(KJV)
He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.
(NLT)
Better to be patient than powerful;
better to have self-control than to conquer a city.
Up on to this point of time, I need to be patient, patient is better than military power!
(2) wisdom
Ecclesiastes 7:19
"Wisdom makes one wise man more powerful than ten rulers in a city."
In this verse in Ecclesiastes 7:19, wisdom also better than political power!
(3) the holy place and praise
The Ecclesiastes writer wrote that even some of the wicked come and go from the holy place and received praise in the city, at the end they too, die! What is the meaning in standing at the holy place, praying and reading the Holy Bible, or it is like the theologians who are pursuing the perfect scriptures, but he is called a wicked man, he received praise, and die in these! It is meaningless to him!
Ecclesiastes 8:10
Then too, I saw the wicked buried—those who used to come and go from the holy place and receive praise in the city where they did this. This too is meaningless.
What is the meaning for living another day
1.To write down my thoughts and to be patient, since I am impatient.
2.To pursue wisdom since I am a foolish man.
3.To stay away from wickedness, may God create a cleaned heart in my heart!
27.7.09
What days are these days?
What days are we living in, these are the last days, the end of the world is approaching!
Where men kill each other like killing an animal, when they see these killings and hurting a game it self. They have fun in disturbing and hurting the follower of Christ, they enjoy it. The followers of Christ are self defeating in lusts and prides! And so many people are becoming the smoke in the air! Vanished like that, no one care, they come and go!
I see the politicians came to speak aloud, and they wanted to tame the Church! They wanted the church to keep silent upon the corruptions and killings, and some of the followers of Christ had betrayed the Lord even His followers, and they followed the corrupted men! They love money and statue in the society more than the love of justice for the people!
And then the theologians at the other hands making voices that some scriptures texts are corrupted here and there, I see this is no use in helping the people in this end time! What is corrupting a man? The heart corrupting a man! Things that come out from the heart that defile a man! To a man who is defiled, to him, everything is defiled, nothing is good! Corruption is worsen from time to time but it started in the heart!
The end time there are calamities and difficulties that broken the bondage of denominations, the church at the end will be united as one, when the fires from heaven came down on to mankind in the end. The earthquake will break the four walls of the church buildings, and the church will has an external focus, and then they will move on a little step further, and the hunger will come like a wind, and then the people will start to look for food, rather than spiritual food, beware, do not fight over scripture texts, contend with the KJV and CUV you have in your hands, give thanks for your neighbors, I had prayed for you, that you escaped the coming calamity upon the BP churches! I do do regret when I had told you this before hand, this is not a curse, but this is a plea that you repent, and then the blessings will come to you as God promised.
My simple plea is this, unite ye BP churches, and this is a test in heaven, in the "Name of Jesus Christ, that foundation stone of the BIble college had been laid, and this is in the Name of the Lord Jesus you must welcome every one, if not the lamp stand will be taken away from you for a time, until you say Blessed is the man who come in the Name of the Lord, and then you do not despised your neighbor because of the Bible versions they are reading, and then the Lord will sent you blessings upon blessings. Did not ye see the land is barren? Can't you see that? And the blessings are withhold now!
What days are these days, why we are living in these evil days, because you are like an actor acting for the gospel sake so that the world may see the truth? Yes or no? I had written many words about you, and are you listening? Or are you stubborn like me? Please ignore this post, because this is only a writings in the blog.
Are you playing a game, the "manuscript game," seek and hide in the piles of old and new manuscripts? In these evil days? Are you having fun, in seeing, the world in darkness? Do you care a day, when the moon will stand still a moment? To speak to you, unite! Do you care for the world like what the Bible tells you to?
What are these days, are these the days you should be proud of your perfect Bible? And the rest of the world suffers? Are these the days you are counting on to, where the people had lost their focus and faith? Are you come in the Name of KJV? Or are you come in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ? Let me, say this again, may the Lord heal us, my days are dying, draw me closer to You, Lord!
Where men kill each other like killing an animal, when they see these killings and hurting a game it self. They have fun in disturbing and hurting the follower of Christ, they enjoy it. The followers of Christ are self defeating in lusts and prides! And so many people are becoming the smoke in the air! Vanished like that, no one care, they come and go!
I see the politicians came to speak aloud, and they wanted to tame the Church! They wanted the church to keep silent upon the corruptions and killings, and some of the followers of Christ had betrayed the Lord even His followers, and they followed the corrupted men! They love money and statue in the society more than the love of justice for the people!
And then the theologians at the other hands making voices that some scriptures texts are corrupted here and there, I see this is no use in helping the people in this end time! What is corrupting a man? The heart corrupting a man! Things that come out from the heart that defile a man! To a man who is defiled, to him, everything is defiled, nothing is good! Corruption is worsen from time to time but it started in the heart!
The end time there are calamities and difficulties that broken the bondage of denominations, the church at the end will be united as one, when the fires from heaven came down on to mankind in the end. The earthquake will break the four walls of the church buildings, and the church will has an external focus, and then they will move on a little step further, and the hunger will come like a wind, and then the people will start to look for food, rather than spiritual food, beware, do not fight over scripture texts, contend with the KJV and CUV you have in your hands, give thanks for your neighbors, I had prayed for you, that you escaped the coming calamity upon the BP churches! I do do regret when I had told you this before hand, this is not a curse, but this is a plea that you repent, and then the blessings will come to you as God promised.
My simple plea is this, unite ye BP churches, and this is a test in heaven, in the "Name of Jesus Christ, that foundation stone of the BIble college had been laid, and this is in the Name of the Lord Jesus you must welcome every one, if not the lamp stand will be taken away from you for a time, until you say Blessed is the man who come in the Name of the Lord, and then you do not despised your neighbor because of the Bible versions they are reading, and then the Lord will sent you blessings upon blessings. Did not ye see the land is barren? Can't you see that? And the blessings are withhold now!
What days are these days, why we are living in these evil days, because you are like an actor acting for the gospel sake so that the world may see the truth? Yes or no? I had written many words about you, and are you listening? Or are you stubborn like me? Please ignore this post, because this is only a writings in the blog.
Are you playing a game, the "manuscript game," seek and hide in the piles of old and new manuscripts? In these evil days? Are you having fun, in seeing, the world in darkness? Do you care a day, when the moon will stand still a moment? To speak to you, unite! Do you care for the world like what the Bible tells you to?
What are these days, are these the days you should be proud of your perfect Bible? And the rest of the world suffers? Are these the days you are counting on to, where the people had lost their focus and faith? Are you come in the Name of KJV? Or are you come in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ? Let me, say this again, may the Lord heal us, my days are dying, draw me closer to You, Lord!
26.7.09
The stern words for the Isrealites and the theologians!
Proverb 14:21
בָּז־לְרֵעֵ֥הוּ חֹוטֵ֑א וּמְחֹונֵ֖ן אַשְׁרָֽיו׃
مَنْ يَحْتَقِرُ صَاحِبَهُ يَأْثَمُ، وَطُوبَى لِمَنْ يَرْحَمُ الْبَائِسِينَ.
He who despises his neighbor sins,
but blessed is he who is kind to the needy.
What is this to do with us, it does, the Israelites are sinning, because they had despised the neighbour, the Palestines. Why they do not be kind to the needy now, after the terrorists are being fought, this is the time to give them the land if they come for peace making even for a short time.
This time the USA, UK and UN and the Palestian People will make a resolution, with the mandate given in 1948!
What is this to do with the Verbal Plenary Preservation? It does, the theologians who are teaching this Verbal Plenary Preservation are sinning, because they dispised their neighbour, and even their own kinsman, and these are sins that opened for all of us to see, and when I wrote this, I have washed my hands twice!
Yes, I am sinful, when I dispise any one of the neighbours! Lord, please help me to be humble! May God forgive me!
בָּז־לְרֵעֵ֥הוּ חֹוטֵ֑א וּמְחֹונֵ֖ן אַשְׁרָֽיו׃
مَنْ يَحْتَقِرُ صَاحِبَهُ يَأْثَمُ، وَطُوبَى لِمَنْ يَرْحَمُ الْبَائِسِينَ.
He who despises his neighbor sins,
but blessed is he who is kind to the needy.
What is this to do with us, it does, the Israelites are sinning, because they had despised the neighbour, the Palestines. Why they do not be kind to the needy now, after the terrorists are being fought, this is the time to give them the land if they come for peace making even for a short time.
This time the USA, UK and UN and the Palestian People will make a resolution, with the mandate given in 1948!
What is this to do with the Verbal Plenary Preservation? It does, the theologians who are teaching this Verbal Plenary Preservation are sinning, because they dispised their neighbour, and even their own kinsman, and these are sins that opened for all of us to see, and when I wrote this, I have washed my hands twice!
Yes, I am sinful, when I dispise any one of the neighbours! Lord, please help me to be humble! May God forgive me!
23.7.09
Miranda Warning
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you.
In the name of the Lord Jesus
Colossians 3:17, And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Whatsoever you do, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus.
1. in every word.
2. in every deed.
3. do not forget to give thanks to God and the Father by Him.
The Beginning of Virtue (Colossians 3:17)
Paul's summary of his discussion of virtue is similar to his summary of vice (Colossians 3:11) in two ways. First, both affirm that the whole of Christian life, whether . . . word or deed, derives from the Lord Jesus. By minding the "things above," the community finds that it has good reason for giving thanks to God the Father through him. Second, both continue Paul's polemic against false religion. Lohse suggests that the phrase in the name of the Lord Jesus was formulated to encourage the conviction that "the Christian's entire life is placed under obedience to the Lord" (Lohse 1971:152-53). Any rule of faith that disregards the centrality of the Lord Christ for Christianity's self-understanding cannot result in proper worship of and witness to God. Further, our active worship to God comes through him [Christ] alone--not through our congregational leaders or religious rituals and rules. This closing formula, which places the community in relationship to God through Christ, reminds us of what Paul said earlier in 3:3: the community's hope for salvation is viable only if its "life is hidden with Christ in God."(http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/index.php?action=getCommentaryText&cid=9&source=1&seq=i.58.3.4)
Those theologians are questioning the faithfulness of Chinese Union Version, they had put doubts into the hearts of Chinese readers since they split the church due to the theological conflicts, and so the congregation has been disturbed and faith in the whole Bible has been shaken! This is a deed indeed, but it is a good deed?
In order to build up the Chinese congregation again, now it is time for us to answer those theologians. Hoping the Chinese and English speaking congregation will come to agreement!
We do not accept the teaching of Verbal Plenary Preservation, because verbal plenary preservation has many loopholes and many flaws in it, and because the Lord requested us to obey Him.
The Lord requested us firstly, in our minds:
1. Do everything in the Name of the Lord Jesus.
2. Speak everything in the Name of the Lord Jesus.
The Lord is over us, so here we submit to Him, we obey Him.
It is time for us to reconcile to one another in the name of the Lord Jesus:
To make a pathway for the theologians to repent like what I had done before, I suggest that we are to ask them these few simple questions.
1. Who is the Lord Jesus?
2. What deeds and what words He has done and spoken for us the sinners?
3. In which Bible versions, we may find His deeds and words? Can we find them in CUV, NKJV, etc?
4. What deed we must do now?
5. What word we must speak now?
6. Are we follow Christ example in word and deed?
7. Shall we pray for reconcilation?
St Peter wrote about readiness in the Bible.
1 Peter 3:14, But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; 15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
We must ready to give an answers to every man!
Acts 4:18, Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, "Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God. 20 For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard."
Do not forget to give thanks!
Whatsoever you do, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus.
1. in every word.
2. in every deed.
3. do not forget to give thanks to God and the Father by Him.
The Beginning of Virtue (Colossians 3:17)
Paul's summary of his discussion of virtue is similar to his summary of vice (Colossians 3:11) in two ways. First, both affirm that the whole of Christian life, whether . . . word or deed, derives from the Lord Jesus. By minding the "things above," the community finds that it has good reason for giving thanks to God the Father through him. Second, both continue Paul's polemic against false religion. Lohse suggests that the phrase in the name of the Lord Jesus was formulated to encourage the conviction that "the Christian's entire life is placed under obedience to the Lord" (Lohse 1971:152-53). Any rule of faith that disregards the centrality of the Lord Christ for Christianity's self-understanding cannot result in proper worship of and witness to God. Further, our active worship to God comes through him [Christ] alone--not through our congregational leaders or religious rituals and rules. This closing formula, which places the community in relationship to God through Christ, reminds us of what Paul said earlier in 3:3: the community's hope for salvation is viable only if its "life is hidden with Christ in God."(http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/index.php?action=getCommentaryText&cid=9&source=1&seq=i.58.3.4)
Those theologians are questioning the faithfulness of Chinese Union Version, they had put doubts into the hearts of Chinese readers since they split the church due to the theological conflicts, and so the congregation has been disturbed and faith in the whole Bible has been shaken! This is a deed indeed, but it is a good deed?
In order to build up the Chinese congregation again, now it is time for us to answer those theologians. Hoping the Chinese and English speaking congregation will come to agreement!
We do not accept the teaching of Verbal Plenary Preservation, because verbal plenary preservation has many loopholes and many flaws in it, and because the Lord requested us to obey Him.
The Lord requested us firstly, in our minds:
1. Do everything in the Name of the Lord Jesus.
2. Speak everything in the Name of the Lord Jesus.
The Lord is over us, so here we submit to Him, we obey Him.
It is time for us to reconcile to one another in the name of the Lord Jesus:
To make a pathway for the theologians to repent like what I had done before, I suggest that we are to ask them these few simple questions.
1. Who is the Lord Jesus?
2. What deeds and what words He has done and spoken for us the sinners?
3. In which Bible versions, we may find His deeds and words? Can we find them in CUV, NKJV, etc?
4. What deed we must do now?
5. What word we must speak now?
6. Are we follow Christ example in word and deed?
7. Shall we pray for reconcilation?
St Peter wrote about readiness in the Bible.
1 Peter 3:14, But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; 15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
We must ready to give an answers to every man!
Acts 4:18, Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, "Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God. 20 For we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard."
Do not forget to give thanks!
22.7.09
House of prayer and den of robbers
Mark 11:17
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: " 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.' "
1 Timothy 2:8
I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.
Romans 10:1
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
You may pray 24 times a day, for 365 day.
One year you prayed 24 X 365 times.
Every 24 hours, you prayed 24 times.
Every 1 hours you will bow 10 down and pray 15 minutes!
You eat and pray, eat and pray! Eat and pray! You pray for every one, every thing!
You become prayer worrier! You are strong in prayer! You are faithful in prayer!
People say you are a righteous man, a godly man!
Listen, this is one condition we must take care, the heart!
Psalm 66:18
If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
Proverbs 28:9
If anyone turns a deaf ear to the law, even his prayers are detestable.
24 a day x 365 times prayer = 0, zero, nothing! No matter how many times we pray a day!
Are we having a robber's heart?
Are we quarreling with some one?
What is our desire, when we are praying?
And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: " 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.' "
1 Timothy 2:8
I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.
Romans 10:1
Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
You may pray 24 times a day, for 365 day.
One year you prayed 24 X 365 times.
Every 24 hours, you prayed 24 times.
Every 1 hours you will bow 10 down and pray 15 minutes!
You eat and pray, eat and pray! Eat and pray! You pray for every one, every thing!
You become prayer worrier! You are strong in prayer! You are faithful in prayer!
People say you are a righteous man, a godly man!
Listen, this is one condition we must take care, the heart!
Psalm 66:18
If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
Proverbs 28:9
If anyone turns a deaf ear to the law, even his prayers are detestable.
24 a day x 365 times prayer = 0, zero, nothing! No matter how many times we pray a day!
Are we having a robber's heart?
Are we quarreling with some one?
What is our desire, when we are praying?
What is Bible Presbyterian?
in 1 Corinthians 3:5
Paul asked the theologians in Corinth these funny but important questions:
1. What after all is Apollos?
2. What is Paul?
Question arise after reading this verse is, what is Bible Presbyterian, is Bible Presbyterian following a man rather than God? Then the question next is:
3. What is that man?
Paul answered his funny questions with this answer:
Only servants!
Paul asked the theologians in Corinth these funny but important questions:
1. What after all is Apollos?
2. What is Paul?
Question arise after reading this verse is, what is Bible Presbyterian, is Bible Presbyterian following a man rather than God? Then the question next is:
3. What is that man?
Paul answered his funny questions with this answer:
Only servants!
17.7.09
Give us a chance!
Paul had faith for the brethren in Corinth, even though they were carnal sometime, but Paul, believe God can change them, the Holy Spirit was working in them, that is why Paul did not give up on them. There are good chances for them to be in love again, in Christ! Paul trusted God can do something in Corinth.
Do everything in love, means Paul wanted them to fell in love with one another!~ Do not hate one another, and quarrel, and divided! Paul had faith for them, because God is working among the brethren! That is why Paul prayed for them, and asked them to join in prayers, Paul never give up on them!
How can we give up a brother who is insisting in reading a NIV Bible rather than KJV, how can we give up a brother who reads CUV rather than KJV, how can we give up a pastor who lead a Chinese congregation just because of a little disagreement with Bible version, and Greek and Hebrew text?
How can we give up man and woman in Christ, because they never understand what is TR, MSS, KJV underlying Greek Text, Hebrew Text, all of these are important, but it does not pertain to be a reason for the body of Christ to hate one another!
How can you hate a brother because he is reading ESV! Did you read ESV before, then why you give up the person who read that ESV, and why you are calling NKJV a corrupted version, are you able to translate a Bible like NKJV?
Did the reformers quarrel among them because of Bible versions? Then why they continue in printing different version, edition, revision of Bible among them? How can you give up a congregation which does not read KJV, because they are using NIV?
This is totally personal bias, this is extremely discrimination, this is superb sabotage, this is because you are boycotting NIV, ESV, CUV! And you give up on their users. Are you sinless, in doing this onto the people Christ died for? Who are you, to be the judge onto them and the Bible versions?
Paul wanted the Corinthians not to give up, he turned them away from their focus on their problem, he wrote these few verses for them.
Paul said these to them in Second epistle to Corinth:
1. They are ambassadors for Christ.
2. The important of prayers.
3. Some one is praying for them.
4. Paul prayed for them.
2 Corinthians 5:20
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 8:4
Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2 Corinthians 9:14
And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you.
2 Corinthians 13:7
Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
The apostle blesses God for comfort in, and deliverance out of troubles.
We are encouraged to come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. The Lord is able to give peace to the troubled conscience, and to calm the raging passions of the soul. These blessings are given by him, as the Father of his redeemed family. It is our Saviour who says, Let not your heart be troubled. All comforts come from God, and our sweetest comforts are in him. He speaks peace to souls by granting the free remission of
sins; and he comforts them by the enlivening influences of the Holy Spirit, and by the rich mercies of his grace. He is able to bind up the broken-hearted, to heal the most painful wounds, and also to give hope and joy under the heaviest sorrows. The favours God bestows on us, are not only to make us cheerful, but also that we may be useful to others. He sends comforts enough to support such as simply trust in and serve him. If we should be brought so low as to despair even of life, yet we may
then trust God, who can bring back even from death. Their hope and trust were not in vain; nor shall any be ashamed who trust in the Lord. Past experiences encourage faith and hope, and lay us under obligation to trust in God for time to come. And it is our duty, not only to help one another with prayer, but in praise and thanksgiving, and thereby to make suitable returns for benefits received. Thus both trials and mercies will end in good to ourselves and others. (2Co 1:12-14) (http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/?action=getCommentaryText&cid=55&source=2&seq=i.54.1.1)
In moment like this, please say this to your friends, please stand by me a while....
say, I stand by you! In time like this, you need a friend in Christ.
Do everything in love, means Paul wanted them to fell in love with one another!~ Do not hate one another, and quarrel, and divided! Paul had faith for them, because God is working among the brethren! That is why Paul prayed for them, and asked them to join in prayers, Paul never give up on them!
How can we give up a brother who is insisting in reading a NIV Bible rather than KJV, how can we give up a brother who reads CUV rather than KJV, how can we give up a pastor who lead a Chinese congregation just because of a little disagreement with Bible version, and Greek and Hebrew text?
How can we give up man and woman in Christ, because they never understand what is TR, MSS, KJV underlying Greek Text, Hebrew Text, all of these are important, but it does not pertain to be a reason for the body of Christ to hate one another!
How can you hate a brother because he is reading ESV! Did you read ESV before, then why you give up the person who read that ESV, and why you are calling NKJV a corrupted version, are you able to translate a Bible like NKJV?
Did the reformers quarrel among them because of Bible versions? Then why they continue in printing different version, edition, revision of Bible among them? How can you give up a congregation which does not read KJV, because they are using NIV?
This is totally personal bias, this is extremely discrimination, this is superb sabotage, this is because you are boycotting NIV, ESV, CUV! And you give up on their users. Are you sinless, in doing this onto the people Christ died for? Who are you, to be the judge onto them and the Bible versions?
Paul wanted the Corinthians not to give up, he turned them away from their focus on their problem, he wrote these few verses for them.
Paul said these to them in Second epistle to Corinth:
1. They are ambassadors for Christ.
2. The important of prayers.
3. Some one is praying for them.
4. Paul prayed for them.
2 Corinthians 5:20
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 8:4
Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2 Corinthians 9:14
And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you.
2 Corinthians 13:7
Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
The apostle blesses God for comfort in, and deliverance out of troubles.
We are encouraged to come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. The Lord is able to give peace to the troubled conscience, and to calm the raging passions of the soul. These blessings are given by him, as the Father of his redeemed family. It is our Saviour who says, Let not your heart be troubled. All comforts come from God, and our sweetest comforts are in him. He speaks peace to souls by granting the free remission of
sins; and he comforts them by the enlivening influences of the Holy Spirit, and by the rich mercies of his grace. He is able to bind up the broken-hearted, to heal the most painful wounds, and also to give hope and joy under the heaviest sorrows. The favours God bestows on us, are not only to make us cheerful, but also that we may be useful to others. He sends comforts enough to support such as simply trust in and serve him. If we should be brought so low as to despair even of life, yet we may
then trust God, who can bring back even from death. Their hope and trust were not in vain; nor shall any be ashamed who trust in the Lord. Past experiences encourage faith and hope, and lay us under obligation to trust in God for time to come. And it is our duty, not only to help one another with prayer, but in praise and thanksgiving, and thereby to make suitable returns for benefits received. Thus both trials and mercies will end in good to ourselves and others. (2Co 1:12-14) (http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/?action=getCommentaryText&cid=55&source=2&seq=i.54.1.1)
In moment like this, please say this to your friends, please stand by me a while....
say, I stand by you! In time like this, you need a friend in Christ.
16.7.09
Be strong!~
Why you look so sad? Why I am so sad? Because I am sadden by divisions in BP Churches!
The Church in Corinth was facing so many, so many problems! From divisions to adultery, false apostles, lawsuit among brothers, marriage, food sacrificed to idol, abuse of freedom, disorder in tongue speaking, they do not know the important of spiritual gifts, why we must have head covering, what is holy communion, the truth of the resurrections of Christ is untold, the collections for God's people...etc!
So many problems! There were divisions among them!
PAUL SAID THEY ARE CARNAL CHRISTIANS, THEY ARE BABE IN CHRIST! THEY ARE NOT MATURE, HE DID NOT RECOMMEND THEM TO CONTINUE IN DOING THOSE THINGS!
What Paul wanted them to do is this, he wrote in the end of the 1 Corinthians, do not divide anymore,
1 Corinthians 16:13-14
Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong.
Do everything in love.
1 Corinthians 16:24
My love to all of you in Christ Jesus. Amen.
Even though they were facing problems, and divisions, Paul did not want them to divide among them! Paul wanted them to unite in Christ, in love.
Let go the divisions, let go the theological debates and quarrels,
I had a dream for BP, to see them unite in Christ, this is my dream, my hope to live and see that happened,
I do not have a heart to hate you! I do not have a heart to hurt you, say this to one another!
Do everything in love, my Rev, Dr, Theologians, and pastors!
Look to Jesus Christ, He rather died with the thieves, why? Because He did not want to die with the Pharisees and Scribes! He dislikes theological debates that divide the church!
Forgive one another, I bet my life for this!
Paul wanted the Corinthians to be strong in love, and in Christ!~
There is none that can divide us in Christ! Christ died for you!
Be strong my friends!
The Church in Corinth was facing so many, so many problems! From divisions to adultery, false apostles, lawsuit among brothers, marriage, food sacrificed to idol, abuse of freedom, disorder in tongue speaking, they do not know the important of spiritual gifts, why we must have head covering, what is holy communion, the truth of the resurrections of Christ is untold, the collections for God's people...etc!
So many problems! There were divisions among them!
PAUL SAID THEY ARE CARNAL CHRISTIANS, THEY ARE BABE IN CHRIST! THEY ARE NOT MATURE, HE DID NOT RECOMMEND THEM TO CONTINUE IN DOING THOSE THINGS!
What Paul wanted them to do is this, he wrote in the end of the 1 Corinthians, do not divide anymore,
1 Corinthians 16:13-14
Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong.
Do everything in love.
1 Corinthians 16:24
My love to all of you in Christ Jesus. Amen.
Even though they were facing problems, and divisions, Paul did not want them to divide among them! Paul wanted them to unite in Christ, in love.
Let go the divisions, let go the theological debates and quarrels,
I had a dream for BP, to see them unite in Christ, this is my dream, my hope to live and see that happened,
I do not have a heart to hate you! I do not have a heart to hurt you, say this to one another!
Do everything in love, my Rev, Dr, Theologians, and pastors!
Look to Jesus Christ, He rather died with the thieves, why? Because He did not want to die with the Pharisees and Scribes! He dislikes theological debates that divide the church!
Forgive one another, I bet my life for this!
Paul wanted the Corinthians to be strong in love, and in Christ!~
There is none that can divide us in Christ! Christ died for you!
Be strong my friends!
Peradventure
<< 2 Timothy 2:25 >>
New International Version (©1984)
Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,
International Standard Version (©2008)
and gentle when refuting opponents. After all, maybe God will allow them to repent and to come to a full knowledge of the truth,
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He must be gentle in correcting those who oppose the Good News. Maybe God will allow them to change the way they think and act and lead them to know the truth.
King James Bible
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
American King James Version
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
American Standard Version
in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,
Bible in Basic English
Gently guiding those who go against the teaching; if by chance God may give them a change of heart and true knowledge,
Douay-Rheims Bible
With modesty admonishing them that resist the truth: if peradventure God may give them repentance to know the truth,
Darby Bible Translation
in meekness setting right those who oppose, if God perhaps may sometime give them repentance to acknowledgment of the truth,
English Revised Version
in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,
Webster's Bible Translation
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God perhaps will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth:
Weymouth New Testament
He must speak in a gentle tone when correcting the errors of opponents, in the hope that God will at last give them repentance, for them to come to a full knowledge of the truth
World English Bible
in gentleness correcting those who oppose him: perhaps God may give them repentance leading to a full knowledge of the truth,
Young's Literal Translation
in meekness instructing those opposing -- if perhaps God may give to them repentance to an acknowledging of the truth,
Geneva Study Bible
In meekness instructing those that {k} oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
(k) He means those who do not yet see the truth.
People's New Testament
2:25 In meekness instructing them that oppose themselves. Opposers must be corrected, but not rudely; rather gently, kindly, humbly.
If God peradventure will give them repentance. God gives repentance often by providences which lead to repentance.
Wesley's Notes
2:25 In meekness - He has often need of zeal, always of meekness. If haply God - For it is wholly his work. May give them repentance - The acknowledging of the truth would then quickly follow.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
25. instructing-Greek, "disciplining," instructing with correction, which those who deal in "uninstructive" or "undisciplined questions" need (see on [2500]2Ti 2:23; [2501]1Ti 1:20).
those that oppose themselves-Greek, "oppositely affected"; those of a different opinion.
if . peradventure-Greek, "if at any time."
repentance-which they need as antecedent to the full knowledge (so the Greek for 'acknowledgment') of the truth" (1Ti 2:4), their minds being corrupted (2Ti 3:8), and their lives immoral. The cause of the spiritual ignorance which prompts such "questions" is moral, having its seat in the will, not in the intellect (Joh 7:17). Therefore repentance is their first need. That, not man, but God alone can "give" (Ac 5:31).
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
2:22-26 The more we follow that which is good, the faster and the further we shall flee from that which is evil. The keeping up the communion of saints, will take us from fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness. See how often the apostle cautions against disputes in religion; which surely shows that religion consists more in believing and practising what God requires, than in subtle disputes. Those are unapt to teach, who are apt to strive, and are fierce and froward. Teaching, not persecution, is the Scripture method of dealing with those in error. The same God who gives the discovery of the truth, by his grace brings us to acknowledge it, otherwise our hearts would continue to rebel against it. There is no peradventure, in respect of God's pardoning those who do repent; but we cannot tell that he will give repentance to those who oppose his will. Sinners are taken in a snare, and in the worst snare, because it is the devil's; they are slaves to him. And if any long for deliverance, let them remember they never can escape, except by repentance, which is the gift of God; and we must ask it of him by earnest, persevering prayer.
http://bible.cc/2_timothy/2-25.htm
New International Version (©1984)
Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,
International Standard Version (©2008)
and gentle when refuting opponents. After all, maybe God will allow them to repent and to come to a full knowledge of the truth,
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He must be gentle in correcting those who oppose the Good News. Maybe God will allow them to change the way they think and act and lead them to know the truth.
King James Bible
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
American King James Version
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
American Standard Version
in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,
Bible in Basic English
Gently guiding those who go against the teaching; if by chance God may give them a change of heart and true knowledge,
Douay-Rheims Bible
With modesty admonishing them that resist the truth: if peradventure God may give them repentance to know the truth,
Darby Bible Translation
in meekness setting right those who oppose, if God perhaps may sometime give them repentance to acknowledgment of the truth,
English Revised Version
in meekness correcting them that oppose themselves; if peradventure God may give them repentance unto the knowledge of the truth,
Webster's Bible Translation
In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God perhaps will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth:
Weymouth New Testament
He must speak in a gentle tone when correcting the errors of opponents, in the hope that God will at last give them repentance, for them to come to a full knowledge of the truth
World English Bible
in gentleness correcting those who oppose him: perhaps God may give them repentance leading to a full knowledge of the truth,
Young's Literal Translation
in meekness instructing those opposing -- if perhaps God may give to them repentance to an acknowledging of the truth,
Geneva Study Bible
In meekness instructing those that {k} oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
(k) He means those who do not yet see the truth.
People's New Testament
2:25 In meekness instructing them that oppose themselves. Opposers must be corrected, but not rudely; rather gently, kindly, humbly.
If God peradventure will give them repentance. God gives repentance often by providences which lead to repentance.
Wesley's Notes
2:25 In meekness - He has often need of zeal, always of meekness. If haply God - For it is wholly his work. May give them repentance - The acknowledging of the truth would then quickly follow.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
25. instructing-Greek, "disciplining," instructing with correction, which those who deal in "uninstructive" or "undisciplined questions" need (see on [2500]2Ti 2:23; [2501]1Ti 1:20).
those that oppose themselves-Greek, "oppositely affected"; those of a different opinion.
if . peradventure-Greek, "if at any time."
repentance-which they need as antecedent to the full knowledge (so the Greek for 'acknowledgment') of the truth" (1Ti 2:4), their minds being corrupted (2Ti 3:8), and their lives immoral. The cause of the spiritual ignorance which prompts such "questions" is moral, having its seat in the will, not in the intellect (Joh 7:17). Therefore repentance is their first need. That, not man, but God alone can "give" (Ac 5:31).
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
2:22-26 The more we follow that which is good, the faster and the further we shall flee from that which is evil. The keeping up the communion of saints, will take us from fellowship with unfruitful works of darkness. See how often the apostle cautions against disputes in religion; which surely shows that religion consists more in believing and practising what God requires, than in subtle disputes. Those are unapt to teach, who are apt to strive, and are fierce and froward. Teaching, not persecution, is the Scripture method of dealing with those in error. The same God who gives the discovery of the truth, by his grace brings us to acknowledge it, otherwise our hearts would continue to rebel against it. There is no peradventure, in respect of God's pardoning those who do repent; but we cannot tell that he will give repentance to those who oppose his will. Sinners are taken in a snare, and in the worst snare, because it is the devil's; they are slaves to him. And if any long for deliverance, let them remember they never can escape, except by repentance, which is the gift of God; and we must ask it of him by earnest, persevering prayer.
http://bible.cc/2_timothy/2-25.htm
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