Another urgent prayer to God

All mighty God, please hear my prayer this evening, my enemies are like the waves, and the sand, and more than my hair, and they hated me deeply.

God our instant help, you know who are the terrorists, they have spread the germs and virus around the world, and the people are panic and suffering about this, please heal and help us, and let the enemies be turned over, they are using witchcraft to disturb us, God, please defeat their witches, Lord bring into light, shine Your light from Your face, and Lord, help us, may Your will be done, and we have to obey even if the virus and epidemic are endangering mankind, please turn our enemies again, and the sky stand still for us in this spiritual warfare, and let the people awake to make wars, and let there be peace in Jerusalem...come, the Great One of Israel, our LORD, Jahweh, come, we are waiting for your coming, how long we have to wait some more, the the water had come to my neck, may God help me, Amen.

Wailing, wailing, wailing, for the coming troubles on earth....
moaning, moaning, moaning, for the pastors betray pastors,
crying, crying, crying, for the great is the calamity from heaven,

In Memory of a pastor

There was a pastor, he was a man of faith, love, hope, a young man said, he was a man in prayer, he was found also with truth, love, in him, he was a man who loved the Lord, this is also true about him, he trusted in God, this also true in him, the young man said he saw him sit down and half laid and prayed in peace. Talk in peace, and also serve the Lord in Christ, in peace. In him, the young man saw ..once...the work of the Spirit...!

In this pastor's life, there were things that caused many to respect and other things that caused people to disrespect him and, one of them is the VPP that mared all the respects they owe him. However we must not confused his character with his theology, some of his theology like VPP must be corrected...in VPP, they cannot be united, they must defend the Bible once and for all.

In the history of Israel there were some good kings, and there were many bad kings, God was angered with the bad kings, in the past, for example, Moses was stopped at Mt Nebo, in entering the promised land, in later time, the Israel was split into north and south after King Solomon. Many prophets were sent to Israel to warn and give them the word of God, but sometime they did not listened to the Lord. The Lord sent pestilences to chastise them. They had killed many prophets and servants of God. Their sins are recorded in the Hebrew Bible. Let us learn from that history. Time is near, that they had to make a peace agreement and after that they will make wars with the neighbours, until they destroyed them....they will settled their troubles once and for all, but there is a time for peace.

There are many, pastors, there is not even one, who is perfect....
There are many, man of God, there is not one, who is perfect,
there are many, prophets from God, there is not even one, who is perfect,
there are many, kings from God, there is not even one, who is perfect,
there are many, priest from God, there is not even one, who is perfect,

There is only one man and God, who is perfect, only one who is able,
He is the coming Messiah, the King of kings, Lord of lords,
He is called the Lamb of God....
Amen.

The young man said, the pastor is not a perfect man, lets us forgive him! Did you forgive your pastor?

In Memory of the Rev (Dr) Timothy Tow Siang Hui

By Jonathan Tow, 22 April 2009, Singapore

http://www.febc.edu.sg/assets/weekly2009/weekly-volvi-no30.htm

Many of you this evening know my father well. Some have co-laboured with him, many pastored by him, perhaps a number saved through him, and some taught by him. Regardless, many would agree that he was truly a man of God.

As Rev Tow’s son, I’ve seen my father’s life, both in the church and in the family. He was godly and devout. To me, he was a most gentle, patient, forgiving, generous, honest, loving, selfless, compassionate, gracious, loyal and obedient Christian. He practised what he preached. And, he always put God first. As a family, we witnessed this daily.

I just want to briefly share with you how my father was a man of faith and prayer. When confronted with situations, he always looked to the Lord for guidance and comfort. He recognised the sovereign will of God, and waited on His providence. Even in darkest moments and times of grave disappointment, he never blamed God, nor did he vilify those that treated him with evil intent. He was always calm and urged us to be like Jesus, like when Jesus prayed to His heavenly Father.

Even when my father was faced with physical infirmities in his old age, he never complained. He always said to trust his Savior. There were times I questioned the Lord why certain things befell my father, a most faithful servant of God. Each time I tried to solicit some response from my father, he always pointed to the will of God. Such was his total faith to God, as he would say, “Trust the Lord, He has a plan in your life, commit to Him”.

During his ministry, it was not uncommon for my father to give his entire salary to further God’s work. It was natural as men of flesh to sometimes feel worried what tomorrow holds should my father be called to the Lord early. We had some common fears, since my father, in worldly terms, owned nothing; no property and barely a nominal bank account. But he always responded spiritually, that we must have faith, trust the Lord and He will provide. The Lord is faithful, and the material, is immaterial.

In terms of prayer, my father always focused on seeking God’s will through earnest prayer. He never offered worldly advice, but always pointed to God’s will and seeking after His word. Also, when in doubt, he would tell you to pray. Pray, pray and pray. When we were young, we had our own family prayer meeting. In recent times, with his grandchildren, he would teach them to pray and bless them with his prayers.

When I look back, sometimes I wonder how it is possible to live like the great men of faith in the Bible. How to lead godly lives in all aspects. While he was certainly not perfect, I’ve seen my father to be a good example, and encouragement, that we can emulate, and achieve.

Finally, I want to share what I see to be a “thread” that binds these attributes of my father together. To me, it was his desire to show us that as a father, to love his family, was to demonstrate the love of God, our heavenly Father, to us all. It is not about wealth, or promises, it is about simple faith, and trust in the Lord. This also required us to love the Lord.

My father understood that as a father, he was but a temporary guardian. He showed us that our true Father is God eternal. When my father departs, we do not remain fatherless. Like him, we have the same eternal Father. That to me, is a key essence he imparted to us.

I am privileged to share in his life. I thank God that I was able to return to Singapore last month (March 2009) for two weeks. My father was in good health and continued to have a clear and lucid mind. His eye-sight remained perfect and he was still able to read in Chinese. He also read the newspapers and even asked me some international relations questions, as I was working in New York. But what struck me most was his profound humour. During the two weeks, he must have been a little irritated that I kept asking him the same question; “Dad, how are you?” He usually nodded silently. On the final night before I returned to New York, I asked the same question a couple of times. This time, he grinned, and asked the same question back; “Son, how are you?” I smiled. I was stumped. I saw what he meant. It was a profound response. We both understood.

I thank the Lord that my father returned to his heavenly Father peacefully in his sleep, and during a time when his health had significantly improved. It was to me, a remarkable and glorious return. The Lord, to me, did not forsake His faithful servant. The Lord, to me, returned as appropriate and just, to my father, a healthy physical and mental state, to honour him and to prove His power and love. And then, He bid my father welcome home.

One dream I never forget...for 30 years

For 30 years I kept a picture in my mind, it was taken from a dream. A colorful dream, a swine in the sky run across the sky, it was chased after by a gigantic stone, and the stone fallen into the sea, until today I do not understand that dream, it is a vision, a vivid and colorful blue sky, I never forget until today, but from who...What does it means to this world and my life. There were 5 0r 6 men in long white cloth sitting there watching that event in the sky, who are they, until today...I do not know.

This moment, when I look on myself, I recognized, I am not a spiritual man, and I am not spirit filled man, I was, but it was long time ago, but most of the time I am not walking with God, I am alone doing my things, talking this and that in this blog, struggle to find the truth hidden in the Bible, and going here and there, in ignoring God, and I am used to live like this, because the voice from God is seldom I heard now a day, I ignored His voices, He is silently letting me live in my world. I hope i can live like a koala bear, gentle and soft, peaceful but I can't. Who can help me? Who is the greatest helper for sinner like me? Am I called? God did call me 30 years ago through a voice, is He still wanting me to serve Him in this stage? I do not think so, so I resign as a servant of God, am I a priest?

After the Psunami, there is a Bsunami....a wild guess...a stone!

HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE MINISTRY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT?

Copied from:

http://lifebpc.com/weekly.php?&wdate=%2022%20March%202009&firsttime=0

…………. What does the term "full of the Holy Spirit" mean? What does the Bible mean when it speaks of the fullness of the Holy Spirit? Writing to the Ephesians, Paul said, "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit" (Ephesians 5:18). Here Paul draws a contrast between two things - a person who is filled with wine and a person who is filled with the Holy Spirit. The person who is filled with alcohol is controlled or dominated by alcohol. Its presence and power have overridden his normal abilities and actions. He is under the influence of alcohol. However, the Christian who is controlled by the Holy Spirit is under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Whatever he does, he does it with the help of the Holy Spirit, not with his own strength and ability.

…………. Any Christian who is not filled with the Holy Spirit is a defective Christian. He is weak and fallible. He is easily tempted and trapped by the evil one. He lives a life that is full of carnality and his way displeases the Lord.

Paul exhorts Christians to be filled with the Holy Spirit in Ephesians 5:18. This verse contains a negative and a positive command. The first is, "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess" and the second is "but be filled with the Spirit." The negative command is "be not drunk" with wine. Paul did not forbid the drinking of wine (1 Timothy 5:23; 3:3; Titus 1:7). He said, "Do not be intoxicated" or "Do not be filled" with wine.

Lovingly in Christ, Colin

Your Beloved Pastor Rev Tow

B-P Church Founder Dies at 88

Monday, Apr. 20, 2009 Posted: 4:06:14PM HKT

Rev and Mrs Timothy Tow after the True Life Easter Sunrise Service
at Labrador Park, 12 April 2009

The man widely recognised as the founder of the Bible-Presbyterian movement in Singapore passed away this morning, his family confirmed.

Born in the city of Swatow in Guangdong, China in 1920, the Rev Dr Timothy S H Tow was instrumental in the B-P movement, having founded the first B-P congregation in 1955.

But Bible-Presbyterians trace their beginnings to 1950, when the Rev Dr Tow started an English congregation at Life Presbyterian Church, renamed Life Bible-Presbyterian Church five years later and dissociated from the Presbyterian synod due to the liberalism of the Malayan Christian Council leadership to which it had been connected.

As a young pastor, the Rev Dr Tow had led missionary trips to many parts of Malaysia and for a period of five years was preaching in churches in Singapore and Malaysia on a regular weekly basis. He also set up a theological seminary, Far Eastern Bible College, in 1962 and has been serving as its principal ever since. In a doctrinal conflict with two of his assistant pastors, the Rev Dr Tow resigned from Life B-P Church and started True Life B-P Church, holding the first service in early October in 2003 at the RELC auditorium.

With the missionary fervour of its founder and leaders, the local movement became one of the fastest growing denominations in Singapore, according to Operation World. Unfortunately, the body experienced a split in the 80s due to differing opinions of its leaders over the issue of doctrinal ‘separation’.

As of 2000, there were 60 B-P congregations in Singapore and 20 in Malaysia and unnumbered others in the ten ASEAN countries, Australia and the rest of the world, the pastor had recorded in his 2000 autobiography.

The Rev Dr Timothy S H Tow passed away due to natural reasons at 5.45 a.m. today in his home, according to his son-in-law Dr Jeffrey Khoo, Academic Dean at Far Eastern Bible College.

The funeral service will be conducted on Thursday at 10 a.m. at Calvary-Pandan B-P Church. Virgil services are being held from 8.15 p.m. starting today until Wednesday.



Edmond Chua
edmond@christianpost.com

B-P Pastor: Founder Left Legacy of 'Doctrinal Integrity'

http://sg.christianpost.com/dbase/ministries/1232/section/1.htm

Wednesday, Apr. 22, 2009 Posted: 12:46:03AM HKT

Though the denomination he founded was dissolved in the late 80s, he is remembered for his firm stand against the theological liberalism of his time.

The Rev Dr Timothy Tow Siang Hui, who passed away peacefully on Monday morning in his home at the age of 88, started the Bible-Presbyterian movement in Singapore when as a young pastor of the English congregation at Life Presbyterian Church he broke with the then-liberal modernist Presbyterian Church and formed the Life Bible-Presbyterian Church, the first B-P church in the republic, in 1955.

Through the Rev Tow’s own missionary fervour and biblical discipleship the B-P movement became one of Singapore’s fastest growing denominations. Even though the B-P synod was finally dissolved in 1988 due to differences in doctrinal position, the pastor is remembered for the spiritual legacy and posterity he has left behind.

The Rev Tow inculcated in his members the importance of doctrinal integrity in such a way that it did not hinder their spiritual growth but in fact formed a firm basis for their further theological growth.

Recalled the Rev Peter Eng, pastor of the former Antioch Bible-Presbyterian Church, “During an age of theological compromise, he sounded a clarion call to hold on to absolutes, to doctrinal integrity, and eternal values. I gladly responded to that call. At the same time, he planted in me the declaration of the Westminster Confession that my conscience cannot be bound by any person – not even his teachings. The passage of time and input from various sources have led me to develop my theology. But his core teachings remain true. The reality of absolutes stand against the flood of postmodern relativism. Doctrinal integrity is essential to true faith. Some values are eternal, and temporal gains can never justify the abrogation of an eternal good.”

The Rev Eng, now leading a web-based Bible resource ministry that aims to bridge the Bible and its times with the present day, remembers the Rev Tow as the founder of a spiritual if no longer physical denomination, one where God is the Lord of the conscience and where this freedom of the conscience allowed for its churches to disengage and “unfettered us for more dynamic service” resulting in “true spiritual gain”.

In terms of his spiritual influence, the Rev Tow has directly impacted tens of thousands in Bible-Presbyterian churches scattered throughout Singapore, Malaysia and beyond, and indirectly affected hundreds of thousands, according to the Rev Eng.

The Rev Dr Timothy Tow Siang Hui is survived by his second wife Ivy Tan, three sons and three daughters, three grandsons, five granddaughters and four great-grandsons. His first wife Nancy Loh passed away in 1965. Two children, one son and one daughter, have passed away.



Edmond Chua
edmond@christianpost.com

A cripple man with his horses

Polo is a team sport played on horseback in which the objective is to score goals against an opposing team. Riders score by driving a small white plastic or wooden ball into the opposing team's goal using a long-handled mallet. The traditional sport of polo is played at speed on a large grass field up to 300 yards in length, and each polo team consists of four riders and their mounts.

A 50 years old man with a crippled leg and a crippled hand, with a blinded eye, had made a ridiculous request, he was requesting the polo team manager, to make him to be a key player in his team, a horse rider in the polo game, to compete in the coming Olympic.

The cripple man quarreled with the team director, Tunku Rah, with a royal prince hood, and the cripple man said to Tunkurah, "I can tame all the horses with my one leg and one arm, with my one finger, i can score for your team. Do not worry about my cripple, I am stronger than all the players in the arena. Sure I can. You just have to wait and see."

Tunkurah told the cripple man, "You better take care of yourself and your wives first, before you can become a horse rider. Go, feed all the horses in the barn, do not just keep taring at their skins, go now, do not be lazy any more. They are hungry. I will give you a chance when the time is come."

The cripple man was not happy with Tunku_rah, so he left him for a moment, later he came back, and worked in the horse barn. Two years after that, since Tunku_rah was a good man, he gave the cripple man a chance in the team, but his manager disliked Tunku_rah's decision in making the cripple man as a key player in his team.

The crippled man was a lazy and greedy man, he became proud, when he was hungry, he cut 30% of the fresh from the horses' leg, and cooked and eat it, and sleep with many wives. And and he had many sons called conies, and all the fine horses were eaten by the crippled man.

What happened to the polo team, Tunku_Rah's polo team lose in many games. Tunku_Rah regretted in his decision in allowing the cripple man to be a player in his team. Tunku_rah, later was forced to resign from the team, and later he become a business man. The cripple man later become rich, after he found a fortune hidden underground at the back of his house, he than taken over the polo team, and he become the team director and also the team manager. The previous manager was sacked because he disliked the cripple man.

The cripple man told a lie to his grandson, "Because I loved riding the fine horse, and one day I fell off the horse, broke my leg and crippled myself." In our Bible, God said every thing in the world can be tamed, one thing man cannot tame, it is the tongue, no one one can tame the tongue!

"But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison." (James 3:8) If we said we are religious, firstly, we must tame our tongue!

This is applying to us and also applying to the theologians who say that they had found the perfect Bible, in the underlying TR, Greek and Hebrew texts of the KJV....They said, "This is the one and only Bible, we must put our trust into. If you do not put your trust into this perfect TR, you do not believe the Bible is perfect...Your faith is crippled without the perfect TR!"

My oh my...

X-35 JSF

Elements of the F-35 design were pioneered by the F-22 Raptor. The F-35 appears to be a trimmer and sleeker one-engine sibling of the two-engine F-22. The exhaust duct design was inspired by the General Dynamics Model 200, a 1972 VTOL aircraft designed for the Sea Control Ship. Lockheed had a teaming relationship with the Yakovlev Design Bureau on their bid for the Joint Advanced Strike Technology competition. This has fueled speculation that the overall design of the F-35 was heavily influenced by the Yak-141, however, the two aircraft are very different.

Stealth technology makes the aircraft hard to detect as it approaches short-range tracking, although its rear is much more easily spotted, because of the circular unshielded exhaust nozzle.

Some specific improvements over current-generation fighter aircraft are:

* Durable, low-maintenance stealth technology;
* Integrated avionics and sensor fusion that combine information from off- and onboard sensors to increase the pilot's situational awareness and improve identification and weapon delivery, and to relay information quickly to other command and control (C2) nodes;
* Low life-cycle costs.

Although helmet-mounted display systems have already been integrated into some fourth-generation fighters like the Swedish-manufactured JAS 39 Gripen, the F-35 will be the first modern combat aircraft in which helmet-mounted displays will replace a heads-up display altogether.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...

Never trust the brown the colored face

Do not trust

Do not trust the "brown colored face," if the "brown colored face" cannot be trusted, so do not put all your trust in them! That simple. They are playing a game on the yellow colored faces since long time ago. If you putting your trust and your future in the brown colored face now, you are asking for troubles. Now and even in the future. Because they did not respect you and they will not appreciated your votes or your elected candidates. So withdraw from joining any component party in the next election, for the time being stay put with them, let them show all the shows they are playing at the people. Persevere and long suffering for a moment.

Unite the yellow colored face first, if not ...we are weaken in the games.

The yellow colored faces are better to united and form an new independence party for the next election. Politically and financially. They have to form an new union among and for the yellow colored faces, in this they will become stronger and more united, in the next election, they are speaking for the yellow colored faces, since the brown colored faces are speaking only for the brown colored faces so far, so the yellow colored faces may draw some votes from the yellow colored face in the next election, and when their candidates are elected, they may be requested to form a majority with other parties, they also may form a ruling party with other party component, to become a majority, to form the new govement. Then, they will be appreciated in this way, they will be respected in as an independent party, do not join in any component party in the beginning, if we are not respected, our voice are not listened. Since we still have a few votes now, it is better for us to withdraw from all those vain components, let us speak for the needs of the yellow colored faces. This is not racist, but this is to take care of the yellow colored faces. And then in the later time we may talk about one country, one people! How can the yellow faces betray the yellow colored faces, who will going to respect them any longer? Who will speak for them?

We must not join a corrupted component party.

When a ship is on fire, if you cannot save the ship, even the king and the queen on board also must have to jump from the ship, let the captain goes down with the empty ship, if he wanted to die with the ship, let him die with the broken ship. Rather we build another ship, where we can sail further, and let our kings and queens to be covered from the rains and hot sun, may God open his eyes to see the truth, and the truth will set him free, if there is a future in building a new ship, if God is willing, may God save our kings and the queens. Long live our kings and queens, Amen. May our kings and queen be respected and live, even in well being. Long live the kings and queens. Amen.

My sons, work these things out in our mind, not just waiting for the rabbit to fall down from the sky, for us to toast in the BBQ!

Even until this moment I write this...

Lord, remember us, we are the weak, the sorrows flooded us, we had fallen down, we have no hope in this world, but there is hope in You, the pain induced our minds, the problems blinded my eyes, the attacks from the devils do not stop even until this hour, then in You, we have the strength, please help us, and protect us from the evils and harms. Please bless our family, our sons and daughters, our country and our lives.

In Jesus' Name, I prayed. Amen.

911

911 is an emergency number in some country. I guess, many people has written books about this subject, 911. No joke! On that day, some terrorists had destroyed the World Trade Center. As you know, New Jersey is very far away from us. A friend in New Jersey said, the smoke from the WTC was seen from the place where he stayed. The world was in panic even until today. The whole US heart was touched, and their nerves were pinched, so that is why they react in such a way, to fight the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan until today. And here not long ago, the Bali bombing, it is closer to us, how can we forget these incidents?

You cannot blamed the US in attacking the terrorists, like the Japanese who bombed the Pearl Harbor in the second world war, the Japanese was bombed twice with the Atom Bombs. This time, the terrorists were not bombed with atomic bombs, they escaped the atomic bombs ...the war is still going on until today. Terrorists are facing problems....

And on that 911 morning, what happened? The world was sadden by the attacks, and the world was shocked by those terrorists. Were they wicked? Evil? To hijacked the civil planes, to plunge into those buildings. My sons, did you heard any of these so called pious leaders rebuking the act of terrorism after 911. No, they kept silent for many years after that. I saw their faces, hidden with "high spirit," when 911 is mentioned, they pretended to see and heard nothing about 911. They tried to react as normal as they can. I waited so long to hear from them, they just kept silent.

This is more sadden than the 911. Our world keep silent before the terrorism. They never rebuke anything nor any one related to 911, that incident is hidden from us, not even until today, publicly. They even indirectly praised the act of 911, this means they accepted terrorism in their midst, they welcomed terrorism in their minds. They see the ideology of terrorism is needed to settle the issue of Israel and Palestine. Terrorism is a truth? A life? A way? It is right? What! Terrorism is accepted as a theology? Are you one of the theologians?

"What can we expected from terrorism," if you have time, better take some time to write a 500 pages book about this title. Who are we, how can we say we want to settle the problems in Israel and Palestine? Let them settle themselves, we must not let the act of bombing the World Trade Center escaped from judgment and punishment, the problem in Israel and Palestine, is not an excuse for us to bomb the world trade center or any other places in the world.

Terrorism is terrorism. We must remember, it is an act to destroy the world. This is not a solution in the middle east. There is no excuse in bombing Pearl Harbor and likewise the World Trade Center. The Japanese surrendered, they learned something from that attack, and they turned a new leaf, to become a strong country now. What about the terrorists who bomb the World Trade Center, no matter who is right and who is wrong in the middle east or in the past, the terrorists needed a chance, to turn over from the past.

Looking back in 1948, the Israelites were given a piece of land, they were declared independent that year. But some people in the world is not happy to see that. So what happened, wars were fought until today. Who are we to put our hands into that land? We have clean hands? Clear mind?
I will not fight for them. We better ask our people to pray for the peace in Jerusalem. We do not want 911, or any war in the middle east. But the Bible tells us the final war cannot be avoided.

And someone told the whole world, "We are for peace. We do not want wars." But at the other end, they are making wars among the people, here and there, they never rebuke 911 until today, they never rebuke its terrorism and their activists, they did not say anything about extremist, they kept silent, is there a peace in the middle east until today, because many people like to put more oil and more petrol in the fire there, to make the fire bigger in that small piece of land. To make thing worsen. Who are to be blamed in making the middle east, a dangerous place to stay. Why they like to play the sentiment among the people, so that the people hate Israel, Palestine and US. Are the oil income not enough? Who say they do not have lands to stay? Do not become a busy body!

If one of your chair was stolen or your old car broken down at the road side, not a big deal, do not angry about that, do not shout about that, no need for you to sound the trumpets, or go round the world to beat all the bushes, or you burn down the whole forest only to get a stick, why you angry... why not buy another chair in the market...why not go and repair your car in the garage, or just keep silent and work things out, not a big deal when chair had been stolen, car broken down half way, why you nervous about that poor chair and that poor car? Time is near, when they will be gone, they will gone, they are not forever. You come into this world empty handed, and you go back to see God, empty handed, if you still do not believe in this, how are you going to settle the problem in this world?

Why we have to be nervous in our life when one of the chair was stolen, or one screw on the our car was loosen, today is the day, , go and buy another chair, go and tighten that screw.

Human life is more important than the poor chair and old car. Let the death bury the death, come, you better follow the Lord, the Son of God, why you worry about tomorrow, why you worry about the middle east, why care for your chair or seat? There is a better seat for you in heaven, the Lord Jesus said, He is the door, whosoever come into Him, will find peace and grace in God. Amen.

This is to illustrate, the theologians who worry about the sacred pages handed down to us, the Bible, why they worry, and worry, and worried, until they worried, the Bible is missing, the Bible never missing from the church, the missing words are all kept intact, or photo framed, or copied in heaven, do not worry for those missing words. One day you can read them when you are in heaven.

When we are living on this earth, the general instinct, or the Spiritual insight, see all spiritual things, the church faithfully copied the Bible for us for the past 2000 years....

Only thing we have to worry is that we may not find any empty chair prepared for us in heaven on that great day...take care...