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http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Story/A1Story20081217-108546.html
Church sues Bible college directors
It sends writ to college telling them to leave premises
A CHURCH and its affiliated Bible college have gone to court after they fell out over each other's interpretation of a particular doctrine.
By Arul John
17 December 2008
A CHURCH and its affiliated Bible college have gone to court after they fell out over each other's interpretation of a particular doctrine.
Life Bible-Presbyterian Church (Life BPC) is suing the board of directors of the Far Eastern Bible College to stop what it considers to be deviant Bible teachings and to leave their current location.
In response, the directors of the college have stated that it is an independent organisation with its own rules and regulations and does not have to follow instructions from the church.
They also claim that the college is entitled to operate on its current site as it is among the trustees of the site.
Since it was founded in 1962, the college has operated with the support of the church.
Both are on a plot of land owned by the church on Gilstead Road, near Newton Circus.
The church issued a writ of summons against the board of the college in September and a pre-trial conference was held on 12 Nov.
Lawyer Ang Cheng Hock, who is representing the college, said another pre-trial conference is to be held soon.
The case focuses on how each party interprets a doctrine relating to the Bible.
This doctrine, known as Verbal Plenary Preservation, is at the centre of the conflict.
According to Bible study websites, this refers to the belief that God has preserved, down to the last detail, all of Scripture without any loss of the original words, prophecies, promises, commandments, doctrines, and truths.
Only one version
Believers in the doctrine use only the King James version of the Bible because they believe it exactly replicates the original books of the Bible.
They deny the accuracy of other English versions of the Bible.
According to a Lianhe Zaobao report on 11 Nov, Dr Jeffrey Khoo, one of the respondents in the writ and a lecturer at the college, started propagating an extreme view of the doctrine at the college in 2002.
This view was unacceptable to the church, and some other lecturers who disagreed with the extreme version resigned.
Another respondent in the writ, Rev (Dr) Timothy Tow, founded the church in 1950.
After resigning in 2003, Rev Tow, who is also a lecturer at the college, founded another church called True Life Bible-Presbyterian Church.
In January 2004, the True Life church registered the college as a charity organisation without Life BPC's knowledge.
On 8 Nov 2005, the elders of Life BPC stated that they had earlier agreed to bear with the doctrinal differences for the sake of church harmony and 'greater benefit of the Christian belief' as long as the college agreed not to use the church's premises to push its agenda.
If it did, the elders said they would ask the college to leave the Gilstead Road premises.
In July last year, Life BPC stopped the college from having free use of its premises, saying the college was no longer linked to it as it was now a charity organisation.
In March this year, the church wrote to the college board telling it to leave the Gilstead Road site by the end of June.
When the board did not move, the church took legal action.
Life BPC claims the college has deviated from the role that the church originally planned for it because of its extreme view of the Verbal Plenary Preservation doctrine.
The college board has appealed to the church to respect an agreement made between the two in 1970 which allowed both groups joint trusteeship of the site where the college building sits.
When contacted, both parties declined to comment as the case is before the courts.
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22.1.09
20.1.09
Lawyer saluted!
I read somewhere in the blog space, talking about the VPP, in the civil court, in Singapore, the blogger wrote...there is a man with a Bible in his hand, and there is another man with a Bible in his hand, they had read the Bible for so many years, and here they are going to the civil court to settle their quarrels, the blogger said it is very sad to see this thing happened, the Bible in their hands cannot settle their quarrels, are the lawyers better than pastors in settling church problems? The law books are better than their perfect Bible? The court room is better than their church? Who will win the case, and who will be glorified in the end?
18.1.09
Pastor
When I was a child, i heard father scolded his children as rascal, i am very afraid to hear that word, but it was said again and again, until it shoot in my young brain, unforgettable word until I die?
When I was young, i heard many a time, when people were quarreling, they like to use this word, "bastard" to scold one another. I was too young to understand the meaning this word. I understood this is not a good word to use in our conversation.
When i was older I heard this word again, this time, it was being used by the unbeliever to call a pastor, as "bastard" sound familiar with "pastor", listen carefully, you may cut into your hearts and ears. The highly educated men like to tease those young pastors in South East Asia, calling them "bastard!" Instead of "pastor," they called them "bastard" Insulting their parents! Even insulting their God the Father in heaven!
The words "bastard" (or "bastardy") are widely considered pejorative, especially because of their informal meanings, which refer to people thought to be obnoxious. However, these words were always considered offensive, even before the informal meaning came out. In informal terms, the word "whoreson" is used as an abusive term for only men thought to be vicious. A bastard could not be ordained as a priest.
And I heard many years ago, a Christian old pastor called another young pastor as "poster," teasing him for not performing well in life and character. Maybe too much insulin injected in the old pastor's blood vain! He lost control of his tongue!
But the Chinese like to use good and nice words during the Chinese New Year, they say "Kong Hi Fa Cai, wan xi ru yi" wishing one another for more prosperity and well being.
How about Chinese Christians, how do you call your friend and brother in Christ! How about calling our pastor as "father?" Forbid to call anyone as bastard, in and out of the church during the new year.
Say, "grace and peace to you?"
When I was young, i heard many a time, when people were quarreling, they like to use this word, "bastard" to scold one another. I was too young to understand the meaning this word. I understood this is not a good word to use in our conversation.
When i was older I heard this word again, this time, it was being used by the unbeliever to call a pastor, as "bastard" sound familiar with "pastor", listen carefully, you may cut into your hearts and ears. The highly educated men like to tease those young pastors in South East Asia, calling them "bastard!" Instead of "pastor," they called them "bastard" Insulting their parents! Even insulting their God the Father in heaven!
The words "bastard" (or "bastardy") are widely considered pejorative, especially because of their informal meanings, which refer to people thought to be obnoxious. However, these words were always considered offensive, even before the informal meaning came out. In informal terms, the word "whoreson" is used as an abusive term for only men thought to be vicious. A bastard could not be ordained as a priest.
And I heard many years ago, a Christian old pastor called another young pastor as "poster," teasing him for not performing well in life and character. Maybe too much insulin injected in the old pastor's blood vain! He lost control of his tongue!
But the Chinese like to use good and nice words during the Chinese New Year, they say "Kong Hi Fa Cai, wan xi ru yi" wishing one another for more prosperity and well being.
How about Chinese Christians, how do you call your friend and brother in Christ! How about calling our pastor as "father?" Forbid to call anyone as bastard, in and out of the church during the new year.
Say, "grace and peace to you?"
17.1.09
Ephesians 6
In this chapter, before he talk about the spiritual armour, Paul talked about the family rules.
Ephesians 6:4
And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath,
but
bring them up in the nurture
and
admonition of the Lord.
Parents should give an good example to the children, be responsible, feed and teach them out of love, warn them in love,
but not to provoke them by force nor dictate them!
Ephesians 6:4
And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath,
but
bring them up in the nurture
and
admonition of the Lord.
Parents should give an good example to the children, be responsible, feed and teach them out of love, warn them in love,
but not to provoke them by force nor dictate them!
15.1.09
Unforgettable quotes
US President George W. Bush may be passing out of the White House and into history, but he has bequeathed to the nation and the world volumes of unforgettable quotes.
"Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech,"
-- Washington April 16, 2008 to Pope Benedict XVI.
"I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office,"
-- Washington, June 26, 2008
ECO-BUSH
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully,"
-- Saginaw, Michigan, September 29, 2000
DOC BUSH
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country,"
-- Poplar Bluff, Missouri, September 6, 2004
"It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber,"
-- Washington, April 10, 2002
THE EDUCATOR
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
-- Florence, South Carolina, January 11, 2000
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test,"
-- Townsend, Tennessee, February 21, 2001
"Thank you, Your Holiness. Awesome speech,"
-- Washington April 16, 2008 to Pope Benedict XVI.
"I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office,"
-- Washington, June 26, 2008
ECO-BUSH
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully,"
-- Saginaw, Michigan, September 29, 2000
DOC BUSH
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country,"
-- Poplar Bluff, Missouri, September 6, 2004
"It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber,"
-- Washington, April 10, 2002
THE EDUCATOR
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
-- Florence, South Carolina, January 11, 2000
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test,"
-- Townsend, Tennessee, February 21, 2001
Calvinist and love
And now abideth faith, hope and charity, these three, but the greatest is charity. (1 Cor 13:13)
Faith is enlisted first in these 3 words. But the greatest is love!
Faith comes from hearing God's Word, "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." (Romans 10:17) We believe the Bible is the very and inspired Word of God, it is important to hear the Word of God! And to teach the Word of God correctly.
The Word of God is needed!
But, listen carefully, how important is love, compare to hearing the Word of God, the greater is love, the greatest commandment is loving God and second greatest is loving man. The Greatest sin in the world is lack of love to God and man.
Love is needed far most!
Hearing the Word of God is important, please put after charity, and some choose to pursue a perfect underlying text until they hate one another and sue one another in civil court, this is hurting the body of Christ. But they put up a show of devotion and mixed with fist in the church, they are not the street fighters but they are the church fighter! Fighting in the church! Spiritually!
After faith, enlisted hope, hoping the second coming of the Messiah, this is a hope, not a worry for tomorrow, hope, for things unseen, rather than seen and temporary in the world. Hope in Christ.
Hope is needed!
The Word is nigh thee, in your mouth.......which we preach.....that word is "...if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
So tenderly speak to yourself, "I do not need a perfect underlying text in Greek and Hebrew, I do not need the perfect text! I can live better without the perfect underlying text, say this in your heart and hears." How great is God's love compare with my little faith!
"I do not need these perfect KJV only. The VPP is not needed, the perfect underlying text is not needed, the perfect TR is not needed. Say this aloud! Say this to your friend, say this again and again, the greatest sin is lack of love! This is about our heart situation. I am not lack of any Bible verses! We need all the Bible verses, still love is greatest.
"Whosoever beliveth on him shall not be ashamed" (Romans 10:11) Shall ashame of our CUV, NIV, NKJV?
In other place in the gospel, The Word of God had been sown to the four types of soils, but only the good ground, come the good tree and bear good fruits! Do not blame the Word of God and the sower! Or how much seeds had been sown in.
And then, in another place, Paul said, "I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase." (1 Cor 3:6) Is Paul more important in the increase? Is Apollos another important factor in the increase? No, But God is!
The church building is not mine, the Bible college is not mine, the country is not mine, my money is not mine, everything there, they are not belong to me, they belong to God, if the things belong to God, please return to God, if the thing belong to the Caesar, then return them to Caesar, the church people is not mine, they are God's people! If any one wanted to take them away, we must say, "go ahead," and we say again, "may God bless you, we give the blessing." Since God is taking care of everything. Are you a Calvinist? Not one can pluck the believer away from the hands of God! Be very sure!
We are only a servant of God, faithfully serving the Lord. Teaching the right doctrine! Peter said, "feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly......and NEITHER AS BEING LORDS OVER GOD'S HERITAGE!" (1 Peter 5:1-3).
Stewardship is given to you, not ownership. The Owner is Christ. We must rightly dividing the Word of God, but do not forget the greatest is love!
If I am lack of love, lukewarm! What happened, vomited out? (Rev 3:16-19)
How great is my love compare to God's love?
Faith is enlisted first in these 3 words. But the greatest is love!
Faith comes from hearing God's Word, "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." (Romans 10:17) We believe the Bible is the very and inspired Word of God, it is important to hear the Word of God! And to teach the Word of God correctly.
The Word of God is needed!
But, listen carefully, how important is love, compare to hearing the Word of God, the greater is love, the greatest commandment is loving God and second greatest is loving man. The Greatest sin in the world is lack of love to God and man.
Love is needed far most!
Hearing the Word of God is important, please put after charity, and some choose to pursue a perfect underlying text until they hate one another and sue one another in civil court, this is hurting the body of Christ. But they put up a show of devotion and mixed with fist in the church, they are not the street fighters but they are the church fighter! Fighting in the church! Spiritually!
After faith, enlisted hope, hoping the second coming of the Messiah, this is a hope, not a worry for tomorrow, hope, for things unseen, rather than seen and temporary in the world. Hope in Christ.
Hope is needed!
The Word is nigh thee, in your mouth.......which we preach.....that word is "...if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
So tenderly speak to yourself, "I do not need a perfect underlying text in Greek and Hebrew, I do not need the perfect text! I can live better without the perfect underlying text, say this in your heart and hears." How great is God's love compare with my little faith!
"I do not need these perfect KJV only. The VPP is not needed, the perfect underlying text is not needed, the perfect TR is not needed. Say this aloud! Say this to your friend, say this again and again, the greatest sin is lack of love! This is about our heart situation. I am not lack of any Bible verses! We need all the Bible verses, still love is greatest.
"Whosoever beliveth on him shall not be ashamed" (Romans 10:11) Shall ashame of our CUV, NIV, NKJV?
In other place in the gospel, The Word of God had been sown to the four types of soils, but only the good ground, come the good tree and bear good fruits! Do not blame the Word of God and the sower! Or how much seeds had been sown in.
And then, in another place, Paul said, "I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase." (1 Cor 3:6) Is Paul more important in the increase? Is Apollos another important factor in the increase? No, But God is!
The church building is not mine, the Bible college is not mine, the country is not mine, my money is not mine, everything there, they are not belong to me, they belong to God, if the things belong to God, please return to God, if the thing belong to the Caesar, then return them to Caesar, the church people is not mine, they are God's people! If any one wanted to take them away, we must say, "go ahead," and we say again, "may God bless you, we give the blessing." Since God is taking care of everything. Are you a Calvinist? Not one can pluck the believer away from the hands of God! Be very sure!
We are only a servant of God, faithfully serving the Lord. Teaching the right doctrine! Peter said, "feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly......and NEITHER AS BEING LORDS OVER GOD'S HERITAGE!" (1 Peter 5:1-3).
Stewardship is given to you, not ownership. The Owner is Christ. We must rightly dividing the Word of God, but do not forget the greatest is love!
If I am lack of love, lukewarm! What happened, vomited out? (Rev 3:16-19)
How great is my love compare to God's love?
13.1.09
Mother tongue and our first language
The term "mother tongue" should not be interpreted to mean that it is the language of one's mother. In some paternal societies, the wife moves in with the husband and thus may have a different first language, or dialect, than the local language of the husband. Yet their children usually only speak their local language. Only a few will learn to speak their mothers' languages like natives. Mother in this context probably originated from the definition of mother as source, or origin; as in mother-country or -land.
In some countries such as Kenya and India, "mother tongue" is used to indicate the language of one's ethnic group (ethnic tongue), in both common and journalistic parlance (e.g. 'I have no apologies for not learning my mother tongue', rather than one's first language. A similar usage of the term was employed in Ireland in the early-to-mid twentieth century, with Irish being referred to as the "mother tongue" of all Irish people, even of those whose first language was English. Also in Singapore, "mother tongue" refers to the language of one's ethnic group regardless of actual proficiency, while the "first language" refers to the English language, which is the lingua franca for most post-independence Singaporeans due to its use as the language of instruction in government schools and as a working language despite it not being a native tongue for most Singaporeans.
International Mother Language Day Monument in Sydney, Australia, unveiling ceremony, 19 February 2006
J. R. R. Tolkien in his 1955 lecture English and Welsh distinguishes the "native tongue" from the "cradle tongue", the latter being the language one happens to learn during early childhood, while one's true "native tongue" may be different, possibly determined by an inherited linguistic taste, and may later in life be discovered by a strong emotional affinity to a specific dialect (Tolkien personally confessed to such an affinity to the Middle English of the West Midlands in particular).
21 February has been proclaimed the International Mother Language Day by UNESCO on 17 November 1999.
"quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_tongue"
Do not forget our mother tongue....your first language is English, then there are also perfect hokkien? perfect hakka? perfect teochiew? are we perfectionist? Perfect Telugu, perfect Malayam, perfect Irish, perfect Hebrew, perfect Greek, do you mean every languages are preserved perfectly throughout ages, no mistake had been done in translation and interpretation in the KJV! Why there were revisions? Did they claim perfection in translating the KJV in 1611?
What is our mother tongue anyway?
In some countries such as Kenya and India, "mother tongue" is used to indicate the language of one's ethnic group (ethnic tongue), in both common and journalistic parlance (e.g. 'I have no apologies for not learning my mother tongue', rather than one's first language. A similar usage of the term was employed in Ireland in the early-to-mid twentieth century, with Irish being referred to as the "mother tongue" of all Irish people, even of those whose first language was English. Also in Singapore, "mother tongue" refers to the language of one's ethnic group regardless of actual proficiency, while the "first language" refers to the English language, which is the lingua franca for most post-independence Singaporeans due to its use as the language of instruction in government schools and as a working language despite it not being a native tongue for most Singaporeans.
International Mother Language Day Monument in Sydney, Australia, unveiling ceremony, 19 February 2006
J. R. R. Tolkien in his 1955 lecture English and Welsh distinguishes the "native tongue" from the "cradle tongue", the latter being the language one happens to learn during early childhood, while one's true "native tongue" may be different, possibly determined by an inherited linguistic taste, and may later in life be discovered by a strong emotional affinity to a specific dialect (Tolkien personally confessed to such an affinity to the Middle English of the West Midlands in particular).
21 February has been proclaimed the International Mother Language Day by UNESCO on 17 November 1999.
"quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_tongue"
Do not forget our mother tongue....your first language is English, then there are also perfect hokkien? perfect hakka? perfect teochiew? are we perfectionist? Perfect Telugu, perfect Malayam, perfect Irish, perfect Hebrew, perfect Greek, do you mean every languages are preserved perfectly throughout ages, no mistake had been done in translation and interpretation in the KJV! Why there were revisions? Did they claim perfection in translating the KJV in 1611?
What is our mother tongue anyway?
9.1.09
Dancing, crying?
The Bible said, this generation is compare to what? Are We lack of Bible in this generation? Or are we lack of music, or are we lack of mourning?
"We blow the flute, but you do not want to dance, and ask you to mourn, but you do not want to cry..." (Luke 7:31-34)
You wanted a perfect Bible, you quarrel about this VPP, until to the civil court,,,wait and see, until you lost all Bible, then you know it is too late to cry....why not give thank for the Bible you are reading now....why you go and attack brothers in Christ who are reading the CUV and NKJV Bible? Are you jealous because they are reading the CUV, not the KJV?
Do not think you are more spiritual because you can read and write some spiritual books or articles, here and there! Do not think highly about ourselves when we are not so spiritual, do not think we can pretend to be spiritual by arguing about the perfection of the underlying text of the KJV! Do not think we are better than those generations, if we do not have Christ, we perish!
I do not think that I am becoming some body, in writing this blog, the question is that are we reminding each other, are we Christian? We have faith? We have work? We have word? Are we growing? Are we happier, are we better? Is BP's unity had been strengthen or destroyed in the doctrine of VPP? This is more important, is VPP glorified God or not?
Anyway, let dance if there is music around! Mourn and cry, you rich people, who do not contend in the Lord!
"We blow the flute, but you do not want to dance, and ask you to mourn, but you do not want to cry..." (Luke 7:31-34)
You wanted a perfect Bible, you quarrel about this VPP, until to the civil court,,,wait and see, until you lost all Bible, then you know it is too late to cry....why not give thank for the Bible you are reading now....why you go and attack brothers in Christ who are reading the CUV and NKJV Bible? Are you jealous because they are reading the CUV, not the KJV?
Do not think you are more spiritual because you can read and write some spiritual books or articles, here and there! Do not think highly about ourselves when we are not so spiritual, do not think we can pretend to be spiritual by arguing about the perfection of the underlying text of the KJV! Do not think we are better than those generations, if we do not have Christ, we perish!
I do not think that I am becoming some body, in writing this blog, the question is that are we reminding each other, are we Christian? We have faith? We have work? We have word? Are we growing? Are we happier, are we better? Is BP's unity had been strengthen or destroyed in the doctrine of VPP? This is more important, is VPP glorified God or not?
Anyway, let dance if there is music around! Mourn and cry, you rich people, who do not contend in the Lord!
5.1.09
Think! Tomorrow I die!
I am thinking of a way to live a happy life today, "What if tomorrow I die, if i knew tomorrow I will died, how to live today? I will take every minute today as gold, I will treasure my life today, because tomorrow I will die, so, I will give thank for the life I have today, so today let me rejoice in the Lord, Adonai, I rejoice in You today, if tomorrow I die, I die! But I will live my life today happily, I will live my life happily without any worry, because tomorrow I will die, so be happy today!"
Everyday living as tomorrow I will die, I have no worry and care anymore!
Everyday living as tomorrow I will die, I have no worry and care anymore!
The New Year
New Year 2009 is arrived, and we have to do a clean up, to throw away the rubbish, throw away the dust, throw away the contaminated materials in our store room, let the fresh air blew in our living room. So that we may not become crazy with the past.
The Bible said let us forget the past, those passed issue like perfect Bible Texts, let them shrink down the carpet, let the bone underlays in the tomb, let the spiritual man continue to live according to the Spirit.
Beware of those unkind medical doctors, especially those unkind doctor of theology, here I show up some song for them, I hope they can dance when heard these Jewish Songs.
Let the wind of change blew into their mind in 2009! Beware there are great and powerful winds coming toward, car and building can be flown away!
If the oil price continue to rise, let us take the flying Toyota, balloon with helium within, and we fly to the sky with electronic engines....
The Bible said let us forget the past, those passed issue like perfect Bible Texts, let them shrink down the carpet, let the bone underlays in the tomb, let the spiritual man continue to live according to the Spirit.
Beware of those unkind medical doctors, especially those unkind doctor of theology, here I show up some song for them, I hope they can dance when heard these Jewish Songs.
Let the wind of change blew into their mind in 2009! Beware there are great and powerful winds coming toward, car and building can be flown away!
If the oil price continue to rise, let us take the flying Toyota, balloon with helium within, and we fly to the sky with electronic engines....
4.1.09
Adonai
Hope in Adonai, Peace in Adonai, Love in Adonai, Great is Adonai!
2009 is the year of jubilee and celebration. Come and arise, Adonai is coming soon.
A folk song is sung by a couple in love?
Are we in love?
2009 is the year of jubilee and celebration. Come and arise, Adonai is coming soon.
A folk song is sung by a couple in love?
Are we in love?
31.12.08
The great wars
The war is near, and there will be deaths, these deaths cannot be avoided in warfare, unless we are living in peace, then there will be no death. There will be war, many great wars, until they surrender, and they agree to sign an agreement for peace. There is a peace for a time, there is a war for a time, and then they make a greater war.
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